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scoutdrivinrebel · Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 412 Location: Texas

For the first time in a long time, I do not own a Mustang. Sold my 93 37,000 mile Silver Notchback tonight. Wasn't pushing to sell it very hard, and probably let it go for too little money (the guy jumped on it pretty quick), but now I can move on to something else. I have a little sellers remorse (I always do), so this post is a little therapeutic.

On a side note, the guy who bought the coupe loved the McLaren and Lightning.

plumkrazy · Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:29 am Post subject:

How could a Ford person not love a lighting or Mclaren

So is there a late Christmas present coming Wink

scoutdrivinrebel · Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 412 Location: Texas

75coug · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Van Alstyne, TX

Sad to read that you sold it. We all know those feelings of seller's remorse.

Where did you have the coupe listed for sale? I'm surprised that I didn't see it, as I scour the usual listings on a daily basis.
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Robert

1989 ascMcLaren convertible - royal gold
1986 ascMcLaren convertible - red
1984 ascMcLaren convertible - white

scoutdrivinrebel · Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 412 Location: Texas

Sandy · Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject:

"" had so many tire kickers, low ball offers, and dreamersI can't count. I actually had a guy offer me $3000 a few weeks ago, and he was serious. Uh...NO! ""

...... Not to cry - but can you imagine doing that for living? Well, I did it for 27 years, and smile as I did, I can say now that 86% of the people who come into a showroom are as stupid as a block of wood, ultra cheap, and lack any molucule of class. They try to get the price lower with lies & insults and believe me, I threw out my share.
They think the salesperson is making thousands in commissions on their sorry butts, but - in fact, one is lucky to make a commission of $ 100.00 on a sale of a twenty or thirty thousand dollar item, and then - unklike you selling a used car, privately, WE have to live with the customer for the life of the factory warrantee, as anytime they have a car problem, they come in to see their SALESMAN, and expect him to make everything right. MOST commissions are under fifty bucks !!
So, now you can see the "show" from the other side of the fence, and no, customers are dumb and arrogant, and would not believe you if you told them the sky is blue on a sunny day!
Furthermore, they will sell ya down the river for $20 bucks.
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Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
1990 Silver Pearl Anny Edition
1986 Coupe Full Pkg #109 of 114.

http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascmclaren_capris/sandys_mclarens/

scoutdrivinrebel · Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 412 Location: Texas

tfs2121 · Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 1823 Location: Commerce, MI

oy vey sandy. this week i have been the manager at my shop. my boss (the owner) went on vacation and left the #1 Tuffy Auto Service Center in the company to me... a 23 year old kid.

that being said... he can have the job back. holy crap! i cant beleave the daisy people in this world. i had a lady blame us for her brake light bulbs going out 2 months after we did brakes on her car! 2 F'n months! and when she came in she was not nice or calm. she right away started yelling. like that is going to get you some whare.

the guy on the other end of the counter is your friend. stupid.
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1985 ASC McLaren Coupe

75coug · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Van Alstyne, TX

75coug · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Van Alstyne, TX

negusm · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject:

75Coug, like you said, it works both ways. Those tricks that salesman used probably works on 85% of the buyers out there. So he makes more money pulling that crap.

His problem was that he he never developed any skills at sizing up his customer. He doesn't know how to separate the morons from the straight shooters and treat them accordingly.

I have been in both situations...respectful negotiations and the hard sell. The hard sell guys I turn into fools. As they try to work the "numbers", I start taking pieces of the deal off the table to force them to work only from the factory invoice. The insults come quick and fast as they get frustrated. All they have to do is say "no".

-Mike
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1985 ascMcLaren Coupe - Midnight Blue
Under Restoration

Sandy · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject:

Robert, the system you encountered at that dealership is just that, "A SYSTEMS HOUSE" ~ You'll find these most often at either BIG MEGA dealerships, OR at H.H.s (Highway Houses) located on 60 M.P.H. highways. A system's House *IS* a whore house, not only to customers BUT also to salesmen. They work that way, because they are instructed to do it that way, not that we WANT to. To avoid such:
1) Go to smaller or "in town" dealerships
2) Look for ones that do little to no advertising
(They rely on good word of mouth & past customers recomendations)

I personally never worked for one of them, nor did my friends in the business. I did not need an ulcer !!

But, on the other side of the coin, buyers are liars, too.
Story:
I get a customer (this in 1999) and he's got a business card from a competitor (DODGE DEALER) on the back of the salesman's card is written a price.
He hands ME the card to see. It's one of my good friends. We lunch togerther! Customer tells me that is the price and he hands me a list of options on a car. I figure my cost. His #s are $310.00 UNDER the car's INVOICE. I excuse myself & go out into the shop & telephone my friend.
He tells me that he NEVER EVER puts any price on the back of his card, and especially that jerk. He further tells me that he almost showed him the door.
We make a Pizza date for dinner, and I hang up.
Back on the showroom floor, I politly tell the guy that I cannot meet that price and I thank him for giving me an opportunity to make a sale, I walk to the door & open it for him and he leaves.

2 weeks later he is back. He buys from me, for $750.00 more than his fake figure on the back of my friend's business card.

I guess he liked me so much that he was willing to pay me $750.00 more money. Rolling Eyes

But, it does pay to be nice. I made a whooping fifty dollars on the deal.

I used this "They try to get the price lower with lies & insults" which many do, as why I used liars & classless.
There is no reason to be insulting to any salesperson, whther it's Real Estate, stock borker, car salesman or whatever else. It *IS* low class to be insulting to someone whom you do not know on a personal basis who is working and to whom a person is a customer thereof.
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Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
1990 Silver Pearl Anny Edition
1986 Coupe Full Pkg #109 of 114.

http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascmclaren_capris/sandys_mclarens/

scoutdrivinrebel · Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 412 Location: Texas

75coug · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Van Alstyne, TX

Yep.

As for tomorrow, I need to see whether my wife will cooperate.
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Robert

1989 ascMcLaren convertible - royal gold
1986 ascMcLaren convertible - red
1984 ascMcLaren convertible - white

75coug · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Van Alstyne, TX