ascMcLaren Enthusiasts

Sandy · Last edited by Sandy on Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:21 pm; edited 4 times in total

1986

All coupes (Full packaged) were ascMcLaren ordered as the RS 5.0 Model.
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But... did you know that convertibles with a 6 Cylinder HAD TO BE AUTOMATIC?
Convertibles with a V8 302 & 5 Speed manual were ordered from Ford as a RS, BUT convertibles ordered with a V-8 and Automatic were ordered as a GS It's true.

WHY? Because a R/S (5.0) was offered with 4-Speed Automatic OR with 5-Speed Stick, buyer's choice.

BUT While the Automatic was available with the V-8 on both models, the 5-Speed Manual WITH the V-8 was NOT allowed on the GS! The GS with V-8 had to be an Automatic. The Six Cylinder Converts were also ordered as GS models.

By ordering the Automatic with the V8 on a RS, saved the dealer money ( and the buyer) but, the dealer could NOT order a V8 with a 5-Speed on a GS, had to be a RS!

This is why the fog lights on a V8 Automatic are Hella. Ditto a 6 Cyl. with Automatic, also Hella, but the only 6 Cyl. with ground effects which would include Foggies in the front lower ascMcLaren air dam would have been the 1986 Spring Specials.
They used the foggies that came on the RS from Ford when car had Automatic ~ (Marchall) but when the GS arrived with no Foggies there were none to use, so ascMcLaren bought Hellas at a lower price.
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Why do some Capri Converts have a rear driver-side Power Antenna and others have a black rubber whip-type antenna ?? Hmmmm?

Why do some Mustang McLarens (mostly 1987) have rear mounted black rubber "whip-type" antennas while the rest have the normal Ford front fender - Passenger side metal antenna?? Shrug

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Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
1990 Silver Pearl Anny Edition
1986 Coupe Full Pkg #109 of 114.

http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascmclaren_capris/sandys_mclarens/

negusm · Last edited by negusm on Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:59 pm; edited 1 time in total

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negusm · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject:

Sandy, this would be the first time I have ever heard asc cars coming with Marchals. I didn't even think they fit in the recessed asc air dams.

Shrug

Of course, if anyone has Marchals on their car, speak up!

-Mike
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1985 ascMcLaren Coupe - Midnight Blue
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Tom S. · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 264 Location: Farmington, MN

There is NO way a Marchal 750 series light as fitted to numerous GT's and RS's would EVER fit in the opening for a Hella. And since the Marchal 750 series is the ONLY rectangular light fitted to Mustang's and Capri's from '79 to '86 that would rule out any other. The 850 series are bigger and the 950 series lights are bigger yet. Marchal made a smaller light in the early Nineties for the Escort I believe it's a 150 series, too late and too small.

I've had several of all of these lights and am very familiar with their sizes.
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Tom S.

'85 ASC Coupe #607910--sold and crushed RIP Crying or Very sad

'95 SVT Cobra--sold
'89 Oregon State Police SSP Mustang--sold
'86 LX 5.0 Coupe--sold

Sandy · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:

negusm · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject:

Sandy · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject:

I thought we knew that regarding the chrome grille on them.

So, what Tom is saying is the oppisite of what I was copying from
the booklet to the assembly workers... I dunno

So, Tom are you saying that they ALL used hella ?? NO MARCHAL ON ANY CONVERTIBLES?

I know my coupe has Hella!
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Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
1990 Silver Pearl Anny Edition
1986 Coupe Full Pkg #109 of 114.

http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascmclaren_capris/sandys_mclarens/

Tom S. · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 264 Location: Farmington, MN

There is just no way an ASC airdam would accommodate Marchal 750 series foglamps. The mounting point for said lights aren't even the same.

Marchals use a single bolt or stud on a swivel while the Hellas in my Mc used four bolts going through the housing into the airdam. Not even close to being the same. Since I had my Hella lights out and also own a pair of Marchal 750 series lights I can state without a problem there is no way these lights are interchangeable in an ASC airdam.

This is the only way you're getting Marchals on a McLaren, Ford airdam.

These are Marchal 750's.

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These are the correct Hella's, I owned this set but sold them awhile ago.

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Tom S.

'85 ASC Coupe #607910--sold and crushed RIP Crying or Very sad

'95 SVT Cobra--sold
'89 Oregon State Police SSP Mustang--sold
'86 LX 5.0 Coupe--sold

85blackvert · Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Smithfield, RI

What's the correct size/model # of Hellas for our ASCs?
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86capriasc · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 377 Location: wisconsin

I need a set of Hellas too. I think the are the same as the ones used in the Saab 9000's early 90's. Good luck finding them.
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1986 ASCMclaren #108
stock E7 short block, explorer intake, 65mm TB, home built Gt45 turbo kit, 3.08s, Borla cat-back, '05 slot maf, Gt-40p heads, TFS1 cam, 80lb injectors, E85, Qaurterhorse tuner.

Sandy · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:52 am Post subject:

ame as the ones used in the Saab 9000's early 90's

THIS IS CORRECT.
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Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
1990 Silver Pearl Anny Edition
1986 Coupe Full Pkg #109 of 114.

http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascmclaren_capris/sandys_mclarens/

86capriasc · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 377 Location: wisconsin

I think some BMW's had them to.
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1986 ASCMclaren #108
stock E7 short block, explorer intake, 65mm TB, home built Gt45 turbo kit, 3.08s, Borla cat-back, '05 slot maf, Gt-40p heads, TFS1 cam, 80lb injectors, E85, Qaurterhorse tuner.

Sandy · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject:

I have seen them come up from time-to-time on E Bay, and they are always classified as SAAB Fog Lights from like a 1997/1998 Saab 9.5
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Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
1990 Silver Pearl Anny Edition
1986 Coupe Full Pkg #109 of 114.

http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascmclaren_capris/sandys_mclarens/

86capriasc · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 377 Location: wisconsin

I really only need one for my pass. side. It has a stone chip and is froggy.
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1986 ASCMclaren #108
stock E7 short block, explorer intake, 65mm TB, home built Gt45 turbo kit, 3.08s, Borla cat-back, '05 slot maf, Gt-40p heads, TFS1 cam, 80lb injectors, E85, Qaurterhorse tuner.