TO MIKE NEGUS and others.

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:29 pm

Nope.

Both are on (non-turbo) 4- and 6-cylinder tags, which didn't get the quick-ratio rack.

svt1996cobra · Post by **svt1996cobra** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:00 pm

KHummel66 wrote:ST - Steel bumpers

DF - Blackout/painted door frames

Just throwing this out, DF could that be for the exterior 1/4 trim panels to be painted black or matched to the color of the car?

David

Post by **negusm** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:09 pm

What about the passenger mirror?

It was an option on the early cars.

-Mike

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:23 pm

KHummel66 wrote:DF - Blackout/painted door frames

svt1996cobra wrote:DF could that be for the exterior 1/4 trim panels to be painted black or matched to the color of the car?

The paint shop would not know which car got black and which car got body color since each instance had the 'DF' code.

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:24 pm

negusm wrote:What about the passenger mirror?

It was an option on the early cars.

That's what the code "DRM" (dual remote mirrors) is for.

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:56 pm

Okay, lets settle this. Sandy made a call, that resulted in a second call. This is what I was told regarding "DF" ~
You were sorta kinda correct in the two words of DOOR FRAME, but a much needed explanation was needed.
I was told that DF did stand for Door Frame. What it meant was that the applied DOORS (2) would be with frame. If the car was destined to go to
Cars & Concepts for a T-Roof, then a framless door would be installed.

Now , to me, after thinking this thru...I wonder and am not 100% convienced - because the number of units with a FoMoCo supplier installing the T-Tops would be tiny, compared to cars with out T-Tops.
So then, why mark the cars that were "regular" (Solid roofs) when it would be easier just to mark cars needing frameless doors ?
2+2=3 ? Perhaps, but while the explanation seems legit..... why mark 95% units that are the norm....rather than marking the5% that were NOT the norm. 8 - 1986 ascMcLarens had T-Tops.....
?????????????????????? Anyone on here have T-Top McLaren (it would have to be a 1986 to check ???????????

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:16 am

I have data from 70 tags with both 'TR' (T-roof) and 'DF' codes on them.

I have data from tags from 33 convertibles that also have 'DF'.

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:22 am

Well the converts would need frameless doors, but do all 1986 Capri McLaren Converts have DF ? That wouldd make sence.

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:11 am

'DF' is on tags from bodies with door frames (solid roof and sunroof) and on tags from bodies without door frames (T-roof and convertible).

'DF' is on tags from models that had black door frames and on tags from models that had body-color door frames.

'DF' is on tags from cars/models with black sail panels and on tags from cars/models body-color sail panels.

Post by **negusm** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:29 am

Sandy, just so you know, Foxchassis has been working on this for quite some time.

He is one of those very methodical guys who has been collecting numerous data tags and vc labels to try and piece the oddball mysteries together.

Those two codes are not going to be an obvious thing I'm afraid. It is going to be subtle and maybe of no real consequence.

But it's a fun game.

-Mike

Post by **negusm** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:33 am

FoxChassis wrote:
negusm wrote:What about the passenger mirror?

It was an option on the early cars.
That's what the code "DRM" (dual remote mirrors) is for.

Dang.

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:39 am

FoxChassis wrote:I have data from tags from 33 convertibles that also have 'DF'.

Add two more to that list.

I had queried the database only for entries that have 'CVT' for the bodystyle code. Since Capris only have a '61D' bodystyle code, even if they were destined to become a convertible, they obviously didn't show up in the query.

The additional two are '86 McLaren convertibles.

Post by **negusm** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:56 am

So what cars are missing ST or DF? Can we narrow it down to years?

-Mike

KHummel66 · Post by **KHummel66** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:12 am

I'm intrigued by the few codes that occur rather frequently but aren't yet presenting their meaning via FoxChassis' database.

Considering that the Buck tag seemingly defines the core structural components of each car prior to paint and apparently also the wiring harness requirements to support the items shown on the VC label and build sheet; I have been looking thru my "Standard Catalog" data to see what options would drive structural items (i.e. A/C requires firewall holes different from a non-A/C car, or a V8 requires 2 inner fender air intake holes not just one) or that necessitate specific wiring (power locks or rear defrost).

I think I must not be seeing the forest for the trees. There can't be that many not-yet-defined options under the hood or needing special wiring, can there be?

foxchassis · Post by **foxchassis** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:45 am

Out of all the data I have entered into the database (only '82 through '86), the following Buck Tags do not have 'DF'.

'82 Capri -- 1 of 1 (solid roof, Specialty Tu-tone)
'82 Capri L -- 2 of 2 (1 solid roof, 1 sunroof)
'82 Capri GS -- 1 of 1 (solid roof)

'82 Mustang GT -- 12 of 24 (6 solid roof, 5 sunroof, 1 T-roof)
'82 Mustang SSP -- 1 of 1 (solid roof)

'83 Capri -- 1 of 1, unknown if L or GS (sunroof)
'83 Capri RS -- 1 of 7 (sunroof)

'83 Mustang SSP -- 1 of 1 (solid roof)

'84 Mustang -- 1 of 1, unknown if L or LX (solid roof)
'84 Mustang GT -- 1 of 35 (sunroof)
'84 Mustang SSP -- 4 of 4 (4 solid roof)