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From: Marquis Grove <infosyssec@y...>
Date: Fri Jul 19, 2002  10:07 pm
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Re: roll bar

Body:
One thought struck me as I was thinking about 'how would I put a roll bar' into
my 88 McLaren
convertible... and that was a flashback to my days with Triumph TR6's and
TR4s.

For the Triumph's we had a number of chrome, flat black and even leather
wrapped roll bars. They
varied in style from two point bars for driver alone ( which had two attaching
points on the floor
and provided an upside down U shape behind the driver only ) and the two point
bars for driver and
passenger ( which had two attaching points on the floor and provided a
stretched upside down U
that went from the drivers side over to the passenger side of the car ). The
particularly
interesting thing about both of these particular roll bars is that they only
needed to be attached
to the floor immediately behind the seats ( which is roughly the same amount of
room that we have
to work with in the McLaren convertibles.

The Triumphs also had four point roll bars - in the above styles, with two
attachments on the
floorboards behind the seats and two attachments that went onto the faux
backseat area ( which is
similar to the McLaren's faux backseat ( but there would be problems with this
particular fitting
as it would require modification to the 'storage box' that serves as the 'faux
backseat' in the
convertibles.

Lastly, the Triumphs had a six point cage - with two attachments to the floor
behind the seat, two
attachments to the faux backseat area and two attachments UNDER the seats and
near the door. This
model would be a particularly annoying model to try to install.

So thinking back over the Triumph roll bar configurations, I would assume that
a two point roll
bar, going behind the seats would probably be the easiest to install in the
convertible without
having to modify the rear faux backseat.

Ultimately, the other options would be to find a two point roll bar designed
for a Mustang
convertible of the appropriate year model.

But at least I have hopefully opened your eyes to another potential resource
for roll bars that
might work within the confines of the McLaren's back areas.

Ciao

Marq
--- mauro amato <mauro@d...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info guys.
> My car is a 87 asc/mclaren #486(I know the #s don't mean sh-- it sounds
> special when you include the #)
>
> Iam defiantly gonna invest in one now that I know its possible.
> Iam gonna check out those sites.
>
> I had a feeling it had to be modified because of the 20 deg angel on the
> windshield, But do you actually lose seat space when you put it in?do the
> seats have to come forward?
> Iam also going to be welding it to the frame instead of bolts so I get extra
> support.
>
>
>
> "A friend of mine got T-boned on his side by a big Dodge Ram truck in
> his 89 convertible, and between the roll bar and sub frame
> connectors, it stopped that car from flexing just enough to save his
> life. The grill of the truck ended up hitting the roll bar and
> instead of crushing through the car, it pushed the car instead.
> Don't get me wrong, the car was totaled, but at least he walked
> away!"
>
>
>
> That's exactly why I want to put a little protection in the car.
> Ill spend the 800 bucks for that!!!
>
> a little story......
>
> I was racing a rice burner & his beer can for an exhaust the other night on
> the hwy. we were doing about 120mph +.I was totally gaining on him when all
> of a sudden I hit some kind of ditch on the hwy. It made the car go airborne
> to come down for a hard landing. I got a little nervous so I backed off(I
> haven't done the suspension yet its still stock).So I let the lawn mower go,
> only to see him flashing his hazards thinking he got the victory. That made
> me mad.
> I said to myself "if I would of lost control of the car I would of flipped
> it and I would be dead!
> I need some protection!!!!!
>
> anyway,
> I thought you guys might of had a laugh with that, My friends are still
> ripping on me for that one.
>
> thanx for the info again guys ill post pics as soon as I get it done.
> peace,
> Mauro
> __________________________________________________
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