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From: Marquis Grove <infosyssec@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002  11:21 am
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] More pictures of that awful customized 88 Mclaren

Body:
I think the other part that gives everyone the shivers about this car is the
manner by which the
advertiser is attempting to flog it. By touting it as a rare car, unique car,
a collectors car,
etc he is either being deceptive or ill-informed - and this rankles those of us
who have taken a
minute or so to learn anything about these cars.

It reminds me of that one chap who kept flogging the Mercury McLaren's on eBay
by never mentionin
that they were Mercury - instead he always said ' Mustang ' and ' Ford ' as if
to catch the
attention of the Stang owners and drive up the price that he might get compared
to it being listed
as a 'Mercury Capri' ( no offense meant to our Merc Capri fellows ). That
sort of deceptive
practice tends to leave you wondering about the sales tactics being used.

With regards to this 'particular' McLaren, the seller is attempting to get 'a
real McLaren' market
value for the car by touting its initial heritage. But this person is a
professional vehicle
resaler and he above anyone knows that when you customize a 'collector car' it
is no longer a
collector car in value. So why hunt for just under $10k for what is basically
nothing more then
a tweaked Mustang at this point....

In all fairness the vehicle is probably worth about $4500 maximum ( which is
probably what this
'resaler' bought it for. He now hopes to catch the eye of a 'rube' that might
be willing to pay
double the market value for this 'rare gem', this 'rare and unique
collectible'. This is one
value of a having a fraternity of McLaren owners - in that the inexperienced
can come and ask
questions and not get suckered in to buying a mispriced or falsely promoted
vehicle.

I can live with that car - it is nothing that a new paint job and some
additional expenditures
wouldn't return to normal. But starting with a sales figure of $9500 is
ridiculous... and that
is probably what tosses my cookies the most ;)

Marq
--- "Sandy Block <cigarsandy@c...>" <cigarsandy@c...> wrote:
> Well.......
>
> It's sorta like taking a 1956 Thunderbird (Ford's last 2-seater,
> prior to the 2002 T-Bird), and taking this here 1956 T-Bird and
> removing the grille and doing it in gold, and then repainting the car
> in 2001 Cadillac Dark Green and then making the center of the
> continential kit's tire in Gold to match the grille, and the other
> wheel centers, and then making the door handles gold. Revovering the
> seats in 2000 Jaguar XK8 leather covers and making it beige, and then
> making all of the interior trim pieces painted in Gold Leaf paint.
> Then replace the T-Bs taillight lens with '59 Caddy bullets and
> finish off by putting on a Carson-Type convertible top on the thing.
> The person who would do this no doubt would love their creation!
> But..................
> Now take it to a Kruise Auction, and so what happens UP on the
> auction block........
>
> The car has little value, most bidders turn away and look at women,
> or go crab a soda! There are over 100,000 Mustangs made every
> year. If someone WANTS to do this...FINE! But......... Do it to a
> Mustang, there are 100,000 of them out there made every years. There
> will never be more than 1,806 Ford Mustang ascMcLarens. That was the
> grand total of 1987 to 1990. Don't do it to one of these cars!
> There are enough of them being trashed & crashed as it is!
>
> That is my take as to why a large number of us do not like it.
> S A N D Y
>
>
>
>

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "James W. Gibat-Thoroski"
> <mercurycapri@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I am not exactly sure why everyone hates this car so much.
> >
> > It looks pretty good to me, save for the steering wheel and HVAC
> knobs.
> >
> >
> > 12/28/02 10:06:27 PM, "azmustangman2000 <jjscheller@c...>"
> <jjscheller@c...> wrote:
> >
> > >Guess that guy gave up on trying to sell it on eBay. The pictures
> he
> > >posted here are even less flatering than the previous ones. Take
> a
> > >glance for amusment alone:
> > >
> > >http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/5/2/39251652.htm
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -----
> > 76 Mercury Capri GHIA / 77 Mercury Capri RSX
> > http://www.mercurycapri.com .net .org
> > Updated : December 3rd, 2002
>
> __________________________________________________
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