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Number: 2319
From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003  11:20 pm
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Questions

Body:
Sandy's Post #356 kind of describes it. There were no documented
options but it seems there were some undocumented ones on the last
of the '85s.

-Mike



--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm" <negusm@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, I pulled that out from an old posting. I think Sandy
> clarified that actually some of the later 85's had some options
> added.
>
> -Mike
>
>

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, John Gemelli <jgemelli@o...>
> wrote:
> > Maybe I misunderstand your chart but I think it's wrong on the
> 85's as my
> > Midnight blue coupe has
> > Pop up sunroof, Power locks and a Remote hatch release in the
> glovebox.
> >
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
> > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:56 PM
> > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Questions
> >
> >
> > > Well the following I gleaned from all the postings as I went
> > > through...
> > >
> > > Most of it is from sandy and I think it is fairly accurate. It
> > > hasn't been cleaned up and may be somewhat jumbled...but here
it
> > > is...correct anything if it is wrong...
> > >
> > > Coupe information:
> > >
> > > Mercury Capri Coupe GS, tagged with an ASC Mclaren body tag
and a
> > > Ford code of D32 to
> > > denote special order.
> > >
> > > Standard Equipment:
> > > These items were Extra in the Mustang GT, but Standard in ALL
> Capri
> > > RS (GS?) 5.0L cars, and therefore also in all asc/McLaren
Coupes,
> > > from the Dearborn Assembly Plant.
> > >
> > > 1. Power Windows
> > > 2. Light Group
> > > 3. Electric Rr. Defroster
> > >
> > > Items standard in the Mustang GT and Capri:
> > > 1. Tinted Glass
> > > 2. Tilt Steering Wheel
> > >
> > > Options (From Ford) Installed ON LINE at Dearborn on OUR
COUPES,
> > > were:
> > > 1985
> > > NONE
> > > 1986
> > > Power Door Locks
> > > Remote Hatch Release
> > > Air Conditioning (Standard in 1985)
> > > Speed Control
> > > Pop-Up Sun Roof
> > > T-Roof
> > > Automatic Transmission
> > >
> > > All, except the Air Conditioning which was standard in 1985
> > > (optional in 1986) were NOT available on 1985s. However, very
> near
> > > the end of production of the 1985's asc/McLaren added "Oxford
> White"
> > > as an alternative color choice to the "Midnight Navy-Blue
> Metallic",
> > > and at that point, and only on the Oxford White cars, they
> allowed
> > > the option of Power Door Locks/Remote Hatch release, and Speed
> > > Control.
> > >
> > > NO 1985s had the Pop-Up Sun Roof, nor the T-Roof, nor Automatic
> > > Transmission. 1985s in Oxford White with Pwr. Locks & Speed
> Control
> > > are EXTREMELY rare, and I have only 2 on the asc/McLaren
> > > International Registry, after keeping the Registry now for 16
> years!
> > >
> > > Of the 1986's, just nine (9) were equipped with the Automatic
> > > Transmission, and the Pop-Up Sun Roof was on around 20 cars,
> while
> > > the T-Roof was on around 30 cars. Power Locks were on around 55
> > > cars. I have never found an '86 withOUT A/Cond. The rarest
combo
> > > would have been an '86 in Platinum Silver Metallic with Raven
> Black
> > > decals/logos/stripes, with a T-Roof, Pwr. Locks, Automatic
Trans.
> > > However, no such car was built!
> > >
> > >
> > > Engine Oddities in 1985:
> > >
> > > Odd Sized Piston Rings...Normal ones are TRW Metric Some
> > > Ford Mustang 1.5mm.-1.5mm-4mm oil ring
> > > Mercury Capri 1/16-1/16-156mm oil ring
> > >
> > > Some parts scribed with a P for PROTOTYPE by hand (Valve
Guides,
> > > Springs, etc).
> > >
> > > Herewith are the actual alterations done to the MOTOR, either
by
> > > Ford (F)
> > > or by asc/McLaren (AM)
> > >
> > > A) Upgrade Exhaust Header to Stainless Steel Internal Mandrel
> Bent
> > > Incorporate Exhaust Port Liners Tuned With Lower Restriction
> Exhaust.
> > > B) Tuned Muffler To Reduce Back Pressure & Enhance Exhaust
Tone.
> > > C) Replace Damper Units & Springs To Achieve Better Cornering
& A
> > > Softer
> > > Ride than The TRX System.
> > > D) Modify Camber Of Vehicle Front & Rear To Maximize
Performance
> Of
> > > Upgraded
> > > Tire/Wheel Combination. Requires New Wheel Alignment.
> > > E) Increase Suspension Bushing Durometer.
> > > F) Revise Power Steering To Give More Feedback Sensitivity
> > > G) Change Shift Linkage To Shorten Throw & Give A Tighter Feel
on
> > > 1984 & 1985
> > > cars as well 5-Speed Manual 1986 cars.
> > > H) Tires: Upgraded To P225x50:15" From P225x60:15" Hi
> Performance To
> > > Maximize
> > > Handling & Ride Quality & Enhance Lowered Effect Of Vehicle
B.F.
> > > Goodrich
> > > "Comp T/A"
> > > I) Replace Valve Springs & Rocker Arms To Increase Usable Rev.
> Limit
> > > to 7,000 R.P.M.
> > > J) B-303 Ford MotorSport Hi-Po Cam
> > >
> > > Radios
> > > The Speakers in the front were stock Ford
> > > The 2 in the hatch were Kenwood.
> > > They were housed in a rectangle flat black housing with the
name
> > > KENWOOD stamped
> > > in the top part of the framework.
> > > The stereo in the 1984 & 1985 was by Kenwood.
> > >
> > > Ground Effects
> > > You do not need a fog light bar. I would think the directions
> would
> > > point out that
> > > you need to remove and not reuse a stock fog light bar in
order
> to
> > > install the
> > > airdam. My '85 just had the screws going into some nut-serts
into
> > > the urethane.
> > >
> > > Front Nose was originally a GS
> > >
> > > Rear End
> > > 3.08:1 Axle Upgrade over 2.73:1
> > >
> > > "Light Group" which was an
> > > option (order code 934) on the Capri in 1984.
> > > The "Light Group" includes:
> > > Third-door courtesy light switch
> > > Ashtray light (front)
> > > Glove box light
> > > Dual-beam dome lamp
> > > Engine compartment light
> > > Headlamps-on warning buzzer
> > > Locking fuel filler door w/remote release
> > >
> > > In 1985 the "Light Group" became standard equipment and this
> carried
> > > through
> > > to 1986 as well.
> > >
> > > Light Covers
> > > They were made by a vacuum
> > > formed machine, from clear lexan plastic. They have 2 holes on
> top
> > > that small screws go thru, and down into the plastic frame of
the
> > > headlights. On the bottom of them is supposed to be two tabs of
> > > velcro that "hook up" to two receiving tabs of oppisite velcro,
> > > stuck
> > > to the top of the bumper cover, but out of sight as they are
> under
> > > the headlamps. If properly installed, they do not leak. The
> > > taillampcovers, on the other hand, do occassionaly leak
moisture.
> > > NEVER remove the taillight covers to clean! Changes of
breaking
> them
> > > in the re-install are like 85% !
> > >
> > > Wheels
> > > 225/60 15" wheels and 25.63 total height top to bottom with
tire.
> > > <==Help to calc speedo gear.
> > > 225/50 15" wheels and 23.90 <===These are the correct tires.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block"
> <cigarsandy@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Oh, Also.......
> > > >
> > > > Springs were designed by McLaren, and were purpose built to
> spec.
> > > > Shocks were by Carerra in Georgia. 50/50 Shocks, the OEMs
were
> > > > either WHITE or GOLD exterior casing. They are still
> available &
> > > I
> > > > have the part numbers if anyone needs them.
> > > > Air Horn by Fila ('Ya the sportswear Mfg'r.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Tom G <speedracer815@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm curious about the alterations made to the coupes. I've
> seen
> > > > ASC's sales "brochure" and it really doesn't say anything
about
> > > > performance modifications.
> > > > > I understand they were DSO'd with the B303 cam. Any other
> engine
> > > > changes?
> > > > > I also know springs and shocks were different, but does
> anyone
> > > know
> > > > the actual spring rates?
> > > > > As an aside, I'm constantly amazed at the depth of Sandy's
> > > > knowledge. Sandy, were you an ASC employee during that
period?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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