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Number: 2949
From: tasmaniac1
Date: Sun Jun 15, 2003  8:42 pm
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: How naive can I be?

Body:
Marq,

I applaud what you are saying and totally agree. One of the problems
with the ASC Mclaren is that they where built on both the Capri and
Mustang which can be an honest mistake to some. If this jerk is
trying to switch and bait then he should be banned.

What I am commenting on is Private Auctions (see below), something
totally different. I wonder if you would agree if you saw this in a
different light. Imagine you were selling a 90 Mclaren on Ebay and
someone else with a 90 Mclaren decides to email everyone of the
bidders privately about theirs for sale. That is one of the reasons
why a Private Auction exists. It holds back the identity of bidders
for reasons.

-Nick

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "InfoSysSec" <infosyssec@i...>
wrote:
> Actually I did report this guy in the past to eBay. I considered
his actions of posting Capri McLaren's as Mustang McLaren's to be
false and misleading. eBay did NOTHING. His auction continued
without any change or alteration.
>
> It would be something akin to advertising a Camaro as Firebird -
or a Challenger as a Cuda. And this guy has done it consistently
over the past year with the Capri McLaren's he has flogged. That
is also why I originally questioned whether a Capri McLaren is worth
less on the open market than a Mustang McLaren - otherwise this guy
would have no incentive to be out huckerstering the folks with his
lies that his cars have all been Mustang.McLaren. In fact I don't
think I have ever seen him huckster an actual Mustang McLaren....
they have all been Capri McLaren's which are claimed to be Mustangs.
>
> If these were 'Saleen Mustangs' and 'Saleen Capri's' you can be
sure that the folks from Saleen would have put the kabosh on this
guy a long time ago. They are quite vigilante about claims made on
eBay related to products supposedly 'Saleen this' and 'Saleen
that'. They are protecting their marque from misrepresentation
and dilution. Unfortunately the folks from ASC are long gone from
our scene and that leaves it up to the various McLaren marques to
try to keep things honest out there in the marketplace.
>
> Marq
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tasmaniac1
> To: ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 4:13 PM
> Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: How naive can I be?
>
>
> Benefits from a private auction are not to be harrassed by other
> sellers or snoopy people knowing your business. There are
> conveniences to a private auction.
>
> If you smell something wrong with the seller or item then alert
> Ebay. I just don't see someone posting a car on Ebay with a vin
> number that can be car faxed or paying fees on something sold
over
> $6,000 in this case.
>
> -Nick
>
>

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "InfoSysSec"
<infosyssec@i...>
> wrote:
> > The biggest benefit of the 'Private Auction" is to CROOKED
sellers
> who don't want people emailing the bidders and warning them that
> something stinks about the auction.... Possibly that is the
> reason Mr. Mosley prefers to block the world from seeing who are
> bidding on his 'curb side deals'.
> >
> > Marq
>
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