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Number: 3339
From: "jdawg" <jdawg@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Recaro Saga (sad)
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Re: Recaro Saga (sad)
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my heated recaros still work great, although the car doesn't get
driven much anymore, when we did drive it they were on any day it was
cold and left on till your ass almost caught fire from the temp...
lol when they were redone the wiring was checked and no problems
were found. but the paddin had been scorched from the heat.. so it
was replaced. the only problem i have ever had was with the lumbar
switch. hank hooked me up there years ago and all has been well
since...
jdawg
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block" <cigarsandy@c...>
wrote:
> Recaros were very poor sellers in the 1987 & 1988 ascMcLaren
> Mustangs. Out of the 479 for 1987, a mere 39 cars were ordered with
> them. In 1988, of the 1,015 cars made, just 83 units were so
> ordered. The reason for this was cost. They were $1,765.00
optional,
> and dealers wanting to keep the price as low as possible, opted for
> the standard "Sport" seats. The Sport seats were the standard
> Mustang GT seats, with Thunderbird Headrests, which is what we
have.
> I do not know WHY T-Bird headrests were substituted. Ford then
began
> to have big problems with the McLarens as the Recaros proved
> troublesome, and owners took their cars back to the new car dealer
to
> have them fixed, but because they were not OEM (Original Equipment
> Manufacturer) Ford would not honor the warrantee repair, and turned
> to ascMcLaren. Owners, believing the their seats were FORD were
> angered at the delay, and blamed FORD. When ascMcLaren turned to
> RECARO for warrantee coverage, it turned out that RECARO's
warrantee,
> was not much more than a "paper" (worthless) warrantee!
> RECARO's "fix" was to park the car, remove the seat or seatS,
package
> & ship & insure (dealer's expense !!) no reinbursement from
> ascMcLaren and ship them to Texas. Recaro told dealers to look for
a
> 90 day turn around time. EXCUSE ME, but you are now telling people
> that they cannot have their car back, and that it's not living
> outside (convertible) for 90 days! People went NUTTS! Therefore,
> after car #869 of the 1,015 (or 86% of the way thru 1988
production)
> ascMcLaren had run out of the seats, and do not order more from
> RECARO! That would be Dash Plaque car # 1348, and VIN 266272.
> The seats featured stereo speakers in the headrests, seat heaters,
> and side bolsters that wrapped around the human torso to a greater
> degree than the Sport Seats. The problem with them involved
> manufacturing costs on Recaros end. The seats are basically
the "N"
> seat from RECARO, with some cost cutting mods. That being the fact
> that NORMALLY these seats had an internal timer to automatically
cut
> off the seat heaters. RECARO deleted this automatic turn off timer
> BUT did NOT upgrade the wiring under the seat to withstand add'l.
> heat & current. If not turned off within 7 minutes time, the
wiring
> toasted itself and took with it the seat heaters & the stereo
> speakers!!!! The few that I have found today with OEMs working are
> down south (Florida) where the heated seats saw little use. Most
> other area cars have long burnt out. No 1989 nor 1990s were ever
> equipped with this option. The Sea Foam Aquamarine car in question
> herein, doe NOT have the same seats that ascMcLaren used! The seat
> sew style and shape of the seats is different. To make it right,
the
> buyer would have to buy 2 new 1993 Mustang GT seats and then buy
> Oxford White seat covering from Henry Huisman in Fla. The door
> panels are correct. The car also needs ascMcLaren taillamp covers,
> as they are missing as well. It is one of a mere two remaining
cars
> in color, and is the better one!
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