Does this apply to the ascMcLarens which used Sikkens paint? I
thought the ascs (verts) were painted deffierently than normal Fords.
-Mike
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "SNP Marq" <infosyssec@i...> wrote:
> Oh... Sandy... you just said the 'magic word' - silver. Ford /
Mercury / Lincoln were NOTORIOUS for having the most defective silver
paint jobs of any automobile manufacturer.
>
> For some reason Ford simply could not get their 'silver' paint jobs
right. For example, we have a top of the line Marquis Brougham with
all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately it had a silver and gray
two two paint job... gray on the sides and silver on the top. All
the silver on the hood began disintegrating within a year and within
two years you could see the primer color appearing. Ford redid the
paint job for us because my father had visited the dealer within the
first year and documented his complaint with a registered letter.
The subsequent deterioration was accepted as Ford's fault.
>
> Not having learned his lesson, my father then went on to purchase
a 'silver' Thunderbird. Within a year the silver paint started
degrading to the point where it was not only rough to the touch, but
as well it was starting to show the primer. Ford repainted
that 'Bird'.
>
> From what I recall Ford actually sent a bulletin out to all their
dealerships concerning the historical problems they had with the
silver 'argent' paint jobs. There apparently existed a 'hidden
warranty' that covered those car owners that were the original owners.
>
> So what you may be experiencing is the chemical breakdown of
the 'silver' paint. Had your vehicle been in constant use and
exposed to the sun the deterioration would have possibly raised its
ugly head. However, since your car has lead a pampered and
protected life, it was only the oxidation that etched away at the
paint.
>
> The combination of sun, oxidation and washing ( even with mild
detergents ) would have brought about the famous 'looks like that
silver car just drove through a sand storm' appearance that
eventually fell other makes and models in the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury
family.
>
> Marq
>
>
> From: Sandy Block
> To: ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Bodywork Experts
>
>
> I put this car up on a lift, and searched underneath it. Nowhere
can
> I find even a speck of paint spray (overspary). Not on the
chassis
> rails, gas tank or fender wells. No place. The color of the car
> (silver metallic) is uniform throughout, in all types of light.
> Sunlight, street light at night, under man made light and in the
> reflection of other headlights. The hood is satin smooth as is
the
> front bumper fascia, the trunk lid and rear quarters. The gritty
> parts are 1/2 the passenger's door and 1/2 the driver's door and
both
> front fenders. I would not take it to a body shop, because
around
> here they are all unattentive to perfection. The standard to
which
> they work is geared to in & out minimal acceptance on the road
> again "quality" ~ In order to get the kind of quality we are
looking
> for here, in this area (N.J.) one has to go to a "restoration
shop" ~
> which is financially our of the question. In the past, I more or
less
> prided myself on being able to detect bodywork or repaint - but
this
> one defies my ability. No overspray, perfect color all around,
no
> sign of anything less than perfection, short of the feel to the
touch
> of certain areas on the body.
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--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "SNP Marq" <infosyssec@i...>
wrote:
> > Oddly enough, my brother ordered a sparkling new 5.0 black
coupe
> back in 1988. At the time of the pre-inspection before taking
> possession he noted on the body what appeared to be an occurence
of
> overspray which gave the front driver panel and part of the
driver's
> door a slightly sandy feeling to the paint finish... as compared
to
> the slippery smooth finish on the rest of the car body.
> >
> > His first thoughts were that it may have been slightly
scratched
> during transit to the dealer and that they had 'attempted' to
> camoflage the scratches.
> >
> > The body shop foreman was brought out to see what all the
> hullabaloo was about. He agreed that the vehicle 'should' have
> never left the assembly line in that condition. But he also
swore
> up and down that his bodyshop had never been tasked with
repairing
> any scratches in transit on that specific car.
> >
> > The bodyshop foreman took the car to his shop and kept the car
for
> a few days while they did eveeerry trick in the book to bring the
> finish on the fender and door up to the level of quality on the
rest
> of the car.
> >
> > In the end they polished and coated that little black 5.0 so
well
> that the paint job on it TODAY is still as fresh and shiny as the
day
> he picked up the car back in 88.
> >
> > But I guess the key to the story is that a 'new car' finish
should
> not be feeling feathery to the touch. The entire body when new
> should have a consistennnt smoothness at the time of first
delivery...
> >
> > Marq
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brent Abrams
> > To: ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Bodywork Experts
> >
> >
> > Sandy,
> >
> > >From your description, it sounds like paint overspray to me
from
> a previous
> > paint repair.
> > Take it to a highly reputable body shop that you trust and
ask
> them to wet
> > sand it and buff it out for you, if it is a perfect color
match
> as you have
> > said, then it should come out just fine.
> > If you don't have any body shops that you trust, check with
the
> local
> > Corvette club(s), they are usually a good source for a
quality
> oriented body
> > shop.
> > When you find the body shop of choice, ask to speak with the
> manager or
> > owner and show him some pictures of your cars and explain to
him
> the
> > condition that they are in and that you expect your car to be
> taken care of
> > as if it was the shops first born child. If they don't seem
like
> they care,
> > then find another shop.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Brent
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sandy Block" <cigarsandy@c...>
> > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Bodywork Experts
> >
> >
> > You bodywork pros, I got a ?? 4-U
> > What does it mean if you find a car that looks 100% perfect,
say 2
> > years old, and as you run your fingers down the sides, much
of the
> > paintwork is smooth as silk, like a showroom car. Then,
there's
> are
> > area that - while the paint is a perfect match - the feel to
the
> > touch is "gritty" sorta like a finest sand paper one can buy,
I
> think
> > it's called #1. So, you apply a good quality wax and wax it,
> remove
> > wax, and it's STILL gritty. Not REAL gritty, but alot more
than
> the
> > OTHER real satin-ee smooth.
> >
> > Dick. The Crossfire is really nice. I like them.
Especially
> that
> > claret-red colored one. Will be a very hard car to sell down
the
> > road, however. 1)Chrylser 2)Two Seater 3)not much luggage
space
> 4)
> > some say underpowered.
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