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Number: 1175
From: asc709
Date: Sun Aug 25, 2002  4:34 pm
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: color change

Body:
Marq,

Gunmetal grey isn't too far off from Mineral Grey, a bit lighter
IMO. Maybe this will help out. Take a look...very nice. (I tried
to copy the pic here, it didn't work so go to the pics
folder "Gunmetal Grey"). This is probably the hardest decision
you'll have to make, I'm partial towards greys and blues myself.

Sonic Blue has the same "Wow" effect.

Robert



--- In ascmclaren@y..., Marquis Grove <infosyssec@y...> wrote:
> On the topic of changing colors of cars and their respective value
after... I would probably
> suspect that there are two answers to this question :
>
> A negative drop of 75% in value may occur when we are discussing
a 'trailer queen' or ultra low
> mileage McLaren that has changed from its original color to an
alternative color ( even if it is
> only a variation of the original color ). In this instance the
trailer queen or ultra low mileage
> McLaren is being sold prospectively to someone that is going to be
most interested in either a
> 'concours' quality car ( and hence the dire need to ensure the
originality of all components and
> color of the vehicle ) or a car that adheres to all the original
items that the car was issued
> from the 'factory' with.
>
> On the other hand... if you are talking about high mileage
McLarens, they have already loss a
> great deal of their base value simply because of the mileage. In
fact if the vehicle is past the
> magical 99,000 mile mark it really doesn't matter if you paint the
car flamingo pink... the
> mileage will be the factor that is held against the car. Although
by putting a lovely and
> tasteful paint job on to the car will help you recover some of your
investment, it is not a
> sure-fire expenditure.
>
> In some cases a quality paint job for a McLaren will run you $2500
to $3600. A review of recent
> auctions on eBay will show that a number of high miler McLaren's
could not elicit bids from the
> eBay'ers higher then $5k to $6k. In the case of a $5000 McLaren
that sports a fresh $3600 paint
> job... you are basically talking money lost.
>
> In the case of the infamous McLaren ' road pigs ' ( of which I am a
proud owner ) it really
> doesn't matter what color your McLaren is... there is little that
will hurt the value of the car
> as it started originally from zero value. In the case of my
McLaren 'road pig' the car was
> basically a write-off worthy of adorning a wrecking yard for
parts. So each and every upgrade or
> improvement that I make to the vehicle helps to restore some of the
value to the car.
>
> The question of color is one that I have also been fighting with
myself about these last two
> months. I have rebuilt the entire body and gotten the car up to
the primer paint stage. Now I
> face the undaunting task of picking the color that will adorn this
restored 'road pig' when I take
> it in to the body shop for the final painting.
>
> According to Sandy, my McLaren was a 'McLaren Red' to start its'
life. Somewhere during it's
> obscene history the car was painted with spray cans of black
paint. Now that the hood, nose,
> rear valance, doors etc have all been replaced I face the spectrum
of colors to use to complete
> the restoration of this car from the village of the damned to the
land of the living.
>
> I already have a red cobra and I thought having two red 'stangs' in
my driveway might look odd.
> My GTA is done in a nice sandstone metallic taupe - which was stock
issue for 84. The color that
> caught my personal fancy for this little McLaren was the current
Mustang issued color of Mineral
> Gray. As the car has a restored gray leather interior I thought
the current Ford Mustang Mineral
> Gray would work nicely with the body lines of the McLaren to help
confuse other motorist as to
> exactly what it was that they were seeing when I wheeled by.
>
> What I have found is that certain colors on the McLaren make it
look like a Mustang no matter how
> you try to persuade people it isn't. This primarily holds true to
the basic colors of black and
> red - as those colors harden the look of the lines on the cars and
make it easy for strangers to
> visually identify the car.
>
> Yet there are other colors that confuse peoples eyes and make them
do a double take to try to
> register what it was they think they just saw. In the instance of
my leaning towards the Mineral
> Gray color, I find that light reflecting off the car diffuses the
body lines of the car and gives
> off different auras of shading based on how the light is striking
the vehicle. This diffraction
> of color helps to confuse peoples eyes and makes them have to work
harder to visually identify the
> car they are looking at. You could compare this to the use of
sharp angles on the stealth
> aircraft being used to confuse radar that cannot discern the shape
of the aircraft because of the
> way the radar signal is bouncing off the plane.
>
> All that having been said... if you have a trailer queen that is
in immacualate condition ( ready
> for a concours against Sandy's 1200 mile car ) then by all means
stay as original as possible.
> Can you imagine the drop in value of Sandy's virgin child if he
suddenly got the urge to paint the
> car in Viper Competition Yellow or that horrible shade of pink that
the Mary Kay cosmetic people
> use to paint the cars they awarded their distributors. Although I
am sure Sandy would spend top
> dollar for such a paint job - the end result would be that it was
no longer a virgin child - and
> hence no longer appeal to the kind of purchaser who is willing to
pay top dollar for such a
> vehicle. That is not to say however that by some fluke there just
might be some car buff with
> extra dollars who would be willing to pay a premium dollar for a
Viper Yellow McLaren with 1200
> miles on it - but those buyers are few and farther between then the
purchaser who would be seeking
> an 'original' mint condition car.
>
> But if your vehicle is a high miler... go with the color that suits
your fancy. It's value was
> already lost when you hit the 99,000 mile mark. But do keep it a
tasteful color, because a
> screaming hot orange or Mary Kay pink is doing a disservice to what
value you may have left in the
> car.
>
> If your McLaren is in the 20,000 to 60,000 mile range, and still is
original without modifications
> then you are probably best off to maintain your original factory
issued paint color. You can
> best imagine your car is sitting on the edge of the fence at this
point where the mileage and
> originality of the vehicle can only be strengthened by holding to
the original color.
>
> If your McLaren is a heavily modified - no longer essentially stock
McLaren - then mileage no
> longer matters and neither should the color - you should be free to
choose an alternative color.
> At this point, with a tricked out engine, interior modifications,
heavy modifications to the
> suspension etc, the vehicle is too far away from being a stock
McLaren to worry about what color
> the car is. People are either going to buy your car for the
performance enhancements or they are
> not going to be interested at all in it because it lacks
originality.
>
> So as you can see, in my humble opinion the paths we choose when
trying to decide what to do with
> a paint job on a McLaren require you to look at a number of
factors. Fortunately, having a '
> road pig ' allows me the option to pick the color that I think will
best flatter the look of my
> McLaren when it is done. My theory is this : Possibly if this
color had been available back
> in 1988 the McLaren boyz might have used it themselves... ;)
>
> Yet, if I was sitting with an ultra low miler McLaren then my hands
would be tied and I would
> stick with the original color of the car to maintain its
originality and value.
>
> Hope this diatribe helps give you some additional thoughts on the
topic of color for McLarens.
>
> Marq
>
>
>
> --- cigarsandy <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Only about 75% towards the negative, that's all!
> >
> > S A N D Y
> >
> >
> >
> >

--- In ascmclaren@y..., ascmclaren1986 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > If I change the color of my 86 SC from the stock white to
another
> > > color will it affect the value of the car?
> > > WAYNE
> >
> >
>
>
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