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From: John <jgemelli@o...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:50 pm
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer

Body:
my 85 convert came with 85mph
the coupe is 140mph maybe has to do with 5spd vs auto?

John
----- Original Message -----
From: <cigarsandy@c...>
To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:01 PM
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer> My personal experience has been that 1984 & 1985 Coupes and MOST
> convertibles have had the 85MPH Speedo. SOME 1985 converts had the
> 140 HP version. ALL 1986 had the 140 Speedo.
> Axle Ratios:
> Just as Tom S. (Peteycab) stated prior.
> By the way, your tire size is wrong. They were P225x50/15 Goodrich
> Come T/As on ALL coupes (original Equipment on ascMcLarens. The
> converts made do with the OEM tires of P225x60/15" Goodrich Comp T/A.
>
> I have prroft hat there was to be an OPTION, but it never took
> place. The option was to be P235x45/15" .... None were made.
>
>
>
>
> -- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Hudson Valley Office <FOP@F...>
> wrote:
> > My '85 Convert had the "standard" speedometer in it. I got the car
> from
> > its original owner who also happened to be a partner in Crabtree
> Motors
> > in NY. The paperwork that I saw initially indicated the 140
> speedometer
> > as "standard". I asked about this shortly after I got the car from
> > him. As I recall, he told me that although paperwork on the car
> said
> > the 140 was standard, the speedometer was NOT available to to those
> > produced in the earlier part of the production year. I guess that
> > basically confirms what you found out, Brent. He told me that he
> had
> > arranged for one to be made available to him ( I guess the fact
> that he
> > had the dealerships gave him some "Juice" ) but afterwards he just
> never
> > bothered to follow through.
> >
> > The question posed reminded me of something that might also fit in
> > here. I purchased an RX7 from him in '80 and ordered the 145 speedo
> > that was only available on the initial '79 model. I went through
> hell
> > getting my hands on the little gear and once I got it..........it
> never
> > worked right. '79 gear for the 145 speedo was metal and the gears
> in
> > the '80 were plastic. Busted a few before finally removing the
> higher
> > speedo. So, if there was any replacement, chances are that the
> gear has
> > different number of teeth...............
> >
> > Brent Abrams wrote:
> >
> > > The 140 speedometer was sourced from Ford Motorsport and it
> wasn't
> > > available
> > > from them until sometime in 1985.
> > > >From a manufacturing standpoint, it probably didn't make sense
> to put
> > > them
> > > into the car as standard equipment until the start of 1986
> production
> > > when
> > > they could include it in the final costs of the car, retail from
> Ford
> > > Motorsport at the time was $94.45.
> > >
> > > I wonder though if they did offer it as a mid-year stand alone
> option
> > > to the
> > > dealers, maybe Sandy will be able to confirm or deny this though.
> > >
> > > Brent
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <tkm654@c...>
> > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:21 AM
> > > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer
> > >
> > >
> > > > My '85, 607910, had an 85 mph speedo with no evidence of having
> > > > ever been changed. My guess is your car had a 3.08 rearend and
> has
> > > > been changed to 2.73 or the tire size has gone from the 225/50
> tires
> > >
> > > > originally installed to a 225/60 which could also cause the
> > > > difference that you noted. Different transmissions could also
> > > > explain your difference. Just changing the speedo head would not
> > > > make a difference in noted speed.
> > > >
> > > > Your door tag will identify what axle ratio was installed from
> the
> > > > factory. A 2.73 Traction-Lok will have a code of "M" and a 3.08
> > > > Traction-Lok will have a code of "Z". A tag attached to the rear
> > > > cover of the differential will have a code of 2L73 for a 2.73
> and a
> > > > code of 3L08 for a 3.08 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > Tom S.
> > > >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm <negusm@y...>"
> > > > <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > > > > The 1985 coupes were supposed to have 140MPH speedos, right?
> Mine
> > >
> > > > > has the 85MPH variety but has always been 7-8MPH off
> (registers
> > > > too
> > > > > low, I have to add 7-8mph to get the right speed).
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm wondering if the 85 speedo is definitely wrong, which is
> odd
> > > > to
> > > > > me since why would anyone replace a 140 with an 85 or its
> > > > possible,
> > > > > the 85 speedo is right, but I have the wrong rearend gears.
> We
> > > > > never found a tag on the rearend to tell us what was supposed
> to
> > > > be
> > > > > in there...I have a feeling that the previous owner who raced
> it a
> > >
> > > > > little, may have switched gears (or kept the 140MPH speedo?).
> > > > >
> > > > > We had to replace the rearend gears because they shredded but
> we
> > > > > can't remember exactly what went back in. I beleive it was
> the
> > > > same
> > > > > as that were in it since the speedo discrepency didn't change.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would higher or lower gears make the reading go + or -?
> > > > >
> > > > > I bought a Ford 140MPH speedo to go back in this car and
> figured
> > > > > that I would get the speedo gears all worked out so it read
> right
> > > > > but its always been an odd curiosity I have never solved.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I get back up there I'll talk to the previous owner and
> ask
> > > > him
> > > > > if he fiddled much with the car. He only owned it a short
> time
> > > > > after buying it from Florida before he moved on to (or fell in
> > > > love
> > > > > with) SVOs.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mike
> > > >
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2055	Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer	Sandy Block <cigarsandy@c...>	cigarsandy	Thu  2/20/2003	9 KB
2056	Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer	negusm <negusm@y...>	negusm	Thu  2/20/2003	2 KB
2057	Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer	negusm <negusm@y...>	negusm	Fri  2/21/2003	2 KB
2113	Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer	James W. Gibat-Thoroski	jgibatthoroski	Mon  3/3/2003	3 KB