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From: "Sandy Block <cigarsandy@c...>" <cigarsandy@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:42 pm
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer
Body:
My Automatic Tranny Coupe has the 140 MPH Speedo. 1986.
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, John <jgemelli@o...> wrote:
> my 85 convert came with 85mph
> the coupe is 140mph maybe has to do with 5spd vs auto?
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cigarsandy@c...>
> To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:01 PM
> Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer
>
>
> > My personal experience has been that 1984 & 1985 Coupes and MOST
> > convertibles have had the 85MPH Speedo. SOME 1985 converts had
the
> > 140 HP version. ALL 1986 had the 140 Speedo.
> > Axle Ratios:
> > Just as Tom S. (Peteycab) stated prior.
> > By the way, your tire size is wrong. They were P225x50/15
Goodrich
> > Come T/As on ALL coupes (original Equipment on ascMcLarens. The
> > converts made do with the OEM tires of P225x60/15" Goodrich Comp
T/A.
> >
> > I have prroft hat there was to be an OPTION, but it never took
> > place. The option was to be P235x45/15" .... None were made.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Hudson Valley Office <FOP@F...>
> > wrote:
> > > My '85 Convert had the "standard" speedometer in it. I got the
car
> > from
> > > its original owner who also happened to be a partner in Crabtree
> > Motors
> > > in NY. The paperwork that I saw initially indicated the 140
> > speedometer
> > > as "standard". I asked about this shortly after I got the car
from
> > > him. As I recall, he told me that although paperwork on the car
> > said
> > > the 140 was standard, the speedometer was NOT available to to
those
> > > produced in the earlier part of the production year. I guess
that
> > > basically confirms what you found out, Brent. He told me that
he
> > had
> > > arranged for one to be made available to him ( I guess the fact
> > that he
> > > had the dealerships gave him some "Juice" ) but afterwards he
just
> > never
> > > bothered to follow through.
> > >
> > > The question posed reminded me of something that might also fit
in
> > > here. I purchased an RX7 from him in '80 and ordered the 145
speedo
> > > that was only available on the initial '79 model. I went
through
> > hell
> > > getting my hands on the little gear and once I got
it..........it
> > never
> > > worked right. '79 gear for the 145 speedo was metal and the
gears
> > in
> > > the '80 were plastic. Busted a few before finally removing the
> > higher
> > > speedo. So, if there was any replacement, chances are that the
> > gear has
> > > different number of teeth...............
> > >
> > > Brent Abrams wrote:
> > >
> > > > The 140 speedometer was sourced from Ford Motorsport and it
> > wasn't
> > > > available
> > > > from them until sometime in 1985.
> > > > >From a manufacturing standpoint, it probably didn't make
sense
> > to put
> > > > them
> > > > into the car as standard equipment until the start of 1986
> > production
> > > > when
> > > > they could include it in the final costs of the car, retail
from
> > Ford
> > > > Motorsport at the time was $94.45.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder though if they did offer it as a mid-year stand alone
> > option
> > > > to the
> > > > dealers, maybe Sandy will be able to confirm or deny this
though.
> > > >
> > > > Brent
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <tkm654@c...>
> > > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:21 AM
> > > > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Speedometer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > My '85, 607910, had an 85 mph speedo with no evidence of
having
> > > > > ever been changed. My guess is your car had a 3.08 rearend
and
> > has
> > > > > been changed to 2.73 or the tire size has gone from the
225/50
> > tires
> > > >
> > > > > originally installed to a 225/60 which could also cause the
> > > > > difference that you noted. Different transmissions could
also
> > > > > explain your difference. Just changing the speedo head
would not
> > > > > make a difference in noted speed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your door tag will identify what axle ratio was installed
from
> > the
> > > > > factory. A 2.73 Traction-Lok will have a code of "M" and a
3.08
> > > > > Traction-Lok will have a code of "Z". A tag attached to the
rear
> > > > > cover of the differential will have a code of 2L73 for a
2.73
> > and a
> > > > > code of 3L08 for a 3.08 ratio.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom S.
> > > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm <negusm@y...>"
> > > > > <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > The 1985 coupes were supposed to have 140MPH speedos,
right?
> > Mine
> > > >
> > > > > > has the 85MPH variety but has always been 7-8MPH off
> > (registers
> > > > > too
> > > > > > low, I have to add 7-8mph to get the right speed).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm wondering if the 85 speedo is definitely wrong, which
is
> > odd
> > > > > to
> > > > > > me since why would anyone replace a 140 with an 85 or its
> > > > > possible,
> > > > > > the 85 speedo is right, but I have the wrong rearend
gears.
> > We
> > > > > > never found a tag on the rearend to tell us what was
supposed
> > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > in there...I have a feeling that the previous owner who
raced
> > it a
> > > >
> > > > > > little, may have switched gears (or kept the 140MPH
speedo?).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We had to replace the rearend gears because they shredded
but
> > we
> > > > > > can't remember exactly what went back in. I beleive it
was
> > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > as that were in it since the speedo discrepency didn't
change.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would higher or lower gears make the reading go + or -?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I bought a Ford 140MPH speedo to go back in this car and
> > figured
> > > > > > that I would get the speedo gears all worked out so it
read
> > right
> > > > > > but its always been an odd curiosity I have never solved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I get back up there I'll talk to the previous owner
and
> > ask
> > > > > him
> > > > > > if he fiddled much with the car. He only owned it a short
> > time
> > > > > > after buying it from Florida before he moved on to (or
fell in
> > > > > love
> > > > > > with) SVOs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mike
> > > > >
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