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From: John Gemelli <jgemelli@o...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003  10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Questions

Body:
Maybe I misunderstand your chart but I think it's wrong on the 85's as my
Midnight blue coupe has
Pop up sunroof, Power locks and a Remote hatch release in the glovebox.

John
----- Original Message -----
From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Questions> Well the following I gleaned from all the postings as I went
> through...
>
> Most of it is from sandy and I think it is fairly accurate. It
> hasn't been cleaned up and may be somewhat jumbled...but here it
> is...correct anything if it is wrong...
>
> Coupe information:
>
> Mercury Capri Coupe GS, tagged with an ASC Mclaren body tag and a
> Ford code of D32 to
> denote special order.
>
> Standard Equipment:
> These items were Extra in the Mustang GT, but Standard in ALL Capri
> RS (GS?) 5.0L cars, and therefore also in all asc/McLaren Coupes,
> from the Dearborn Assembly Plant.
>
> 1. Power Windows
> 2. Light Group
> 3. Electric Rr. Defroster
>
> Items standard in the Mustang GT and Capri:
> 1. Tinted Glass
> 2. Tilt Steering Wheel
>
> Options (From Ford) Installed ON LINE at Dearborn on OUR COUPES,
> were:
> 1985
> NONE
> 1986
> Power Door Locks
> Remote Hatch Release
> Air Conditioning (Standard in 1985)
> Speed Control
> Pop-Up Sun Roof
> T-Roof
> Automatic Transmission
>
> All, except the Air Conditioning which was standard in 1985
> (optional in 1986) were NOT available on 1985s. However, very near
> the end of production of the 1985's asc/McLaren added "Oxford White"
> as an alternative color choice to the "Midnight Navy-Blue Metallic",
> and at that point, and only on the Oxford White cars, they allowed
> the option of Power Door Locks/Remote Hatch release, and Speed
> Control.
>
> NO 1985s had the Pop-Up Sun Roof, nor the T-Roof, nor Automatic
> Transmission. 1985s in Oxford White with Pwr. Locks & Speed Control
> are EXTREMELY rare, and I have only 2 on the asc/McLaren
> International Registry, after keeping the Registry now for 16 years!
>
> Of the 1986's, just nine (9) were equipped with the Automatic
> Transmission, and the Pop-Up Sun Roof was on around 20 cars, while
> the T-Roof was on around 30 cars. Power Locks were on around 55
> cars. I have never found an '86 withOUT A/Cond. The rarest combo
> would have been an '86 in Platinum Silver Metallic with Raven Black
> decals/logos/stripes, with a T-Roof, Pwr. Locks, Automatic Trans.
> However, no such car was built!
>
>
> Engine Oddities in 1985:
>
> Odd Sized Piston Rings...Normal ones are TRW Metric Some
> Ford Mustang 1.5mm.-1.5mm-4mm oil ring
> Mercury Capri 1/16-1/16-156mm oil ring
>
> Some parts scribed with a P for PROTOTYPE by hand (Valve Guides,
> Springs, etc).
>
> Herewith are the actual alterations done to the MOTOR, either by
> Ford (F)
> or by asc/McLaren (AM)
>
> A) Upgrade Exhaust Header to Stainless Steel Internal Mandrel Bent
> Incorporate Exhaust Port Liners Tuned With Lower Restriction Exhaust.
> B) Tuned Muffler To Reduce Back Pressure & Enhance Exhaust Tone.
> C) Replace Damper Units & Springs To Achieve Better Cornering & A
> Softer
> Ride than The TRX System.
> D) Modify Camber Of Vehicle Front & Rear To Maximize Performance Of
> Upgraded
> Tire/Wheel Combination. Requires New Wheel Alignment.
> E) Increase Suspension Bushing Durometer.
> F) Revise Power Steering To Give More Feedback Sensitivity
> G) Change Shift Linkage To Shorten Throw & Give A Tighter Feel on
> 1984 & 1985
> cars as well 5-Speed Manual 1986 cars.
> H) Tires: Upgraded To P225x50:15" From P225x60:15" Hi Performance To
> Maximize
> Handling & Ride Quality & Enhance Lowered Effect Of Vehicle B.F.
> Goodrich
> "Comp T/A"
> I) Replace Valve Springs & Rocker Arms To Increase Usable Rev. Limit
> to 7,000 R.P.M.
> J) B-303 Ford MotorSport Hi-Po Cam
>
> Radios
> The Speakers in the front were stock Ford
> The 2 in the hatch were Kenwood.
> They were housed in a rectangle flat black housing with the name
> KENWOOD stamped
> in the top part of the framework.
> The stereo in the 1984 & 1985 was by Kenwood.
>
> Ground Effects
> You do not need a fog light bar. I would think the directions would
> point out that
> you need to remove and not reuse a stock fog light bar in order to
> install the
> airdam. My '85 just had the screws going into some nut-serts into
> the urethane.
>
> Front Nose was originally a GS
>
> Rear End
> 3.08:1 Axle Upgrade over 2.73:1
>
> "Light Group" which was an
> option (order code 934) on the Capri in 1984.
> The "Light Group" includes:
> Third-door courtesy light switch
> Ashtray light (front)
> Glove box light
> Dual-beam dome lamp
> Engine compartment light
> Headlamps-on warning buzzer
> Locking fuel filler door w/remote release
>
> In 1985 the "Light Group" became standard equipment and this carried
> through
> to 1986 as well.
>
> Light Covers
> They were made by a vacuum
> formed machine, from clear lexan plastic. They have 2 holes on top
> that small screws go thru, and down into the plastic frame of the
> headlights. On the bottom of them is supposed to be two tabs of
> velcro that "hook up" to two receiving tabs of oppisite velcro,
> stuck
> to the top of the bumper cover, but out of sight as they are under
> the headlamps. If properly installed, they do not leak. The
> taillampcovers, on the other hand, do occassionaly leak moisture.
> NEVER remove the taillight covers to clean! Changes of breaking them
> in the re-install are like 85% !
>
> Wheels
> 225/60 15" wheels and 25.63 total height top to bottom with tire.
> <==Help to calc speedo gear.
> 225/50 15" wheels and 23.90 <===These are the correct tires.
>
> -Mike
>
>

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block" <cigarsandy@c...>
> wrote:
> > Oh, Also.......
> >
> > Springs were designed by McLaren, and were purpose built to spec.
> > Shocks were by Carerra in Georgia. 50/50 Shocks, the OEMs were
> > either WHITE or GOLD exterior casing. They are still available &
> I
> > have the part numbers if anyone needs them.
> > Air Horn by Fila ('Ya the sportswear Mfg'r.)
> >
> >
> >
> >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Tom G <speedracer815@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm curious about the alterations made to the coupes. I've seen
> > ASC's sales "brochure" and it really doesn't say anything about
> > performance modifications.
> > > I understand they were DSO'd with the B303 cam. Any other engine
> > changes?
> > > I also know springs and shocks were different, but does anyone
> know
> > the actual spring rates?
> > > As an aside, I'm constantly amazed at the depth of Sandy's
> > knowledge. Sandy, were you an ASC employee during that period?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
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