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Number: 3701
From: "Sandy Block"
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003  10:09 am
Subject: Re: Window Tinting

Body:
Re: Window Tinting

Yes, I knew that the tint was removeable film. A friend of mine does
it as a business & I have watched me do a car or two.
What I don't like about it, (and granted I am not in Arizona) is the
stigma of the stuff. Around here (New Jersey/New York) all of
the "druggies" have it on their BMWs & Mercedes and the like, and the
cops don't like it, because they know it's to "buy" a moment or two
to "ditch" something or other. THEREFORE, they tend to cut drivers
(male) no slack! A car goes thru an intersection at 32 MPH on the
yellow light. The car is a Pontiac Bonneville, clear glass, male
driver in his 40's ~ Cop leaves it alone. Moments later a Lexus LS
goes thru the same intersection at 30 MPH (it's a 25 MPH zone) and
the Lexus LS is actually going 2 MPH slower than the Bonneville was.
However, the windows are deep tinted and the driver is invisable.
Immediately cop gives chase!! Pulls over the Lexus. What happens
AFTER that depends on many factors. Driver is a 50-ish woman and is
polite, he lets her go. Driver is a 18 year old, fresh kid, a
minority and cop smells beer on his breath, he gets nailed.
By having the tint (here in NJ) and maybe other places, it draws the
attention of law enforcement to YOU and YOUR car. You STAND OUT in
the cops eye.
THAT is what I don't want!! I don't want the red flag the officer.
(and) YES, officers have been shot (and killed) by people who did
pull over. Many, many, many of them here. They actually pull over,
(the criminal) to abort the chase!!! Cops gets out of his Crown Vic
and walks over to drug-driver and driver fires THRU the closed dark
tinted window, into cops face!! (No bullit proof vest on the face)!
Trust me, I know - my wife's first cousin is a leutenant in a local
police force in a impoverished, drug infested town. No decent human
being could ever believe what goes on there. Case in point. All
2002 Nissan Maximas are having their headlamps stolen! 90% of them
have been hit. WHY? These animals have found out that the elements
within the lights can be removed, (HIDs) and made into "Street Stun
Guns" for torture purposes! It's a whole different world than
Arizona, over here.


--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "ecstacycustomz"
<ecstacycustomz@y...> wrote:
> not exactly sure of the year, but all cars produced after a certain
> year(early 80's) have some degree of a factory tint. this is a
> loop hole in all tint laws. here were allowed 50% which is hardly
> more than clear plastic on the windows. however, if you put this
> legal tint on your post 80's car the tint is slightly darker that
> the legal 50%. hence making it illegal. i think tint laws are an
> invasion of privacy... why should the law be about tint... have
the
> law state that you must roll your window down if pulled over... if
> the cop isn't comfortable walking up then pull out his gun. if i
> guy is gonna shoot a cop he probably isn't gonna pull over in the
> first place. it all a control issue. when i get pulled over i
> always roll the window down and put at least on hand out the
> window. its real hard to go for a gun under the seat or in the
> glove box with on arm out the window....cops seem to appreciate
> this. also, here your only allowed a 4"strip on the windshield,
> this is another defunct law. the law must state a percentage of
the
> windshield, because we have all seen them old chop top hot rods,
say
> a 32 ford with a 4- 6" windshield, with this law, they could tint
> the intire windshield....they really dont thing these stupid laws
> out when it comes to custom cars.... you can almost alwasy beat it
> in court....
> jdawg
>
>
>
>

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, hanksgt <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Wow, what a response. Thanks all!
> >
> > I just tinted the '89 ASC's windows and they look great. I'll
take
> a
> > photo and post it of the decal on the '87's window. It's a seat
> belt
> > warning and in small letters at the bottom "form #397 LAW
Printing.
> > Phone..."
> >
> > Sandy-I thought you would say that about tint. But it comes off
and
> > leaves no residue. So it could be returned to stock easily..
> >
> > Both of our ASC's have factory tinted windows (I thought all A/C
> cars
> > came with tint) but it is too light for the AZ sun.
> >
> > Hank
> > Phoenix