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From: "Sandy Block"
Date: Thu Dec 18, 2003  5:55 pm
Subject: Re: 1987 #70 for Sale

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Re: 1987 #70 for Sale

I have the 502G4 map location as well the mix formula, but cannot
link up with an exact match for any other car, and we know that it
most definately was on another car. I've run in excess of
100 "possible matching" formulas, but come up empty!

S A N D Y

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "jbanks523" <john_banks@h...>
wrote:
> Since I forgot, this is the information I got from Sikkens: Color
> code HY, found on the Sikkens Color chart at 502G4, manufactured
> only from 87 to the very beginning of 89 and is an Acryl formula
> shot single stage no clear... this wasnt used on the 89' cars
> though. Also, just as something interesting, it looks like that
> primer that my car was shot in is light, mustard yellow color. I
> can see it in the engine compartment, and I thought most of them
> went from Ford to ASC in black, but mine has a nasty mustard yellow
> primer over spray in some parts of the engine compartment which are
> then covered by zebarting... so I know its original overspray. It
> looks like those late 80's 4 cylinder mustangs in that nasty
mustard
> yellow color if you know what I am talking about. My guy who paints
> all my cars told me that the primer color could be whats affecting
> my outcome when spraying HY, and why it isnt matching... I just
> thought I would throw in this little bit of information. --John--
>
>

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "jbanks523" <john_banks@h...>
> wrote:
> > Your right, it is a mystery color alright... I have never seen a
> > paint code with only 2 letters... Also, I dont know if it was
> > because of the the fade that my car may have, but hot yellow (HY)
> by
> > Sikkens did not match when I repainted the bumper due to a small
> > scratch that I had... you can imagine my anger now when the
bumper
> > is off by a shade or two..... Its infuriating, let me tell ya. I
> > was told by a Mustang guru up here in CT that the Sikkens HY came
> > out of Sweden, or some other European Country, but when I tried
to
> > contact ASC, they redirected me to the Mustang Club of America...
> > and they knew nothing... Thats why I have considered, many a
time,
> > reshooting the entire car in Sikkens HY (which is a little darker
> > and deeper yellow), and then just shooting a UV clear to stop
> > fading. My car i think was the original HY, but it has faded so
> > gradually to more of a lemon yellow or canary i guess you could
> call
> > it. I never really noticed until I look at older pictures... then
> > again, when I wax it, it comes right back to the original
color...
> > it has got to bed one of the strangest paints I have ever worked
> > with... Its the only complaint I have ever had with the car... I
> > just dont think I could bring myself to shoot it with a PPG like
I
> > do with all of my other restos.... Ill have to post some older,
> and
> > recent picks for you to take a look at in the next couple of
> days. -
> > -John--
> >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block"
<cigarsandy@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > It's a mystery color. For years it was thought to be
> > > Porsche's "Speed Yellow" ~ but I've come to learn that it is
> > NOT. I
> > > have the mix # for it, but all McLaren colors came from another
> > make
> > > or brand of car of another year. I cannot find Hot Yellow. I
> > have
> > > been on Sikkens site and used "MIXIT" and I cannot locate it.
I
> > am
> > > sooo frustrated. It's definately NOT a Ford color. We ran the
> > Mit
> > > Codes under Ford and the only thing that came up was Hot Yellow
> 87
> > 88
> > > McLaren, but we know it came from somewhere else. Ran Corvette
> > > yellows, Porsche yellows, Ferarri & Lamborghini & Festiva &
> Fiesta
> > &
> > > Aspire and Camro/Firebird and many, many others & cannot locate.
> > > Someone said Fiat, we ran that as well as Lotus and Chrysler &
> > Viper,
> > > so no luck.
> > >
> > > S A N D Y
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "jbanks523"
<john_banks@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > HY follows it for Hot Yellow. It actually doesnt say *FA87*
> on
> > it
> > > > even though I know thats the code. It is just a Sikkens
> sticker
> > > > with "Hot Yellow" on it and color code HY. Hope this helps...
> It
> > > was
> > > > a pain to actually match this paint because of the fade
> > > > characteristics of it only being a single stage/non-clear. If
> I
> > > keep
> > > > the car, I will probably repaint the entire car even though
> the
> > > > paint on it now is good... it just doesnt like the sun, and I
> > feel
> > > > bad for guys who have to leave theirs outside. --John--
> > > >
> > > >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block"
> > <cigarsandy@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > John, I'd appreciate a favor before you sell it. On the
> > > UNDERSIDE
> > > > of
> > > > > the trunk lid, there should be a sticker-decal. It
> > > says "SIKKENS"
> > > > on
> > > > > it along with the date the car was painted, and a CODE.
The
> > code
> > > > > should begin *FA87* please tell me what follows that. If
it
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > begin FA87, then correct me as to what it does begin with.
> > Much
> > > > > appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > S A N D Y
> > > > > You may post it here, or e-mail it to me:
> > > > > cigarsandy@c...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "jbanks523"
> > <john_banks@h...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I am new to the registry but I have owned my 1987
> > ASC/McLaren
> > > > > > Mustang since August of 2000. I purchased the car with
> only
> > > 8340
> > > > > > miles on it. I have absolutely loved owning and driving
> the
> > > > car,
> > > > > > but unfortunately, I think I have come to the point where
> I
> > > need
> > > > to
> > > > > > sell the vehicle, so I thought I would throw a message
out
> > here
> > > > to
> > > > > > see if there is any interest. It is #70 for that year
and
> > is
> > > > > Yellow
> > > > > > (one of 21) with a Black top (one of 13) and grey
> interior.
> > It
> > > > has
> > > > > > all options except for the radar detector and cruise
> control
> > > > (I'm
> > > > > > not sure why it doesn't have cruise). It's a 5 speed and
> as
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > today, has just under 48K on it. All but 8340 miles of
> > which I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > driven. I have only performed a few performance
> > modifications
> > > > on
> > > > > it
> > > > > > (70mm throttle body and EGR, BBK Cold Air, exhaust, and I
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > > motorsport strut tower brace that I never installed). I
do
> > have
> > > > all
> > > > > > of the original parts as well as the original exhaust (I
> > > > believe).
> > > > > > This car has never seen a mechanics hands other than my
> own
> > > > since I
> > > > > > have owned it and the only work that I have done other
> than
> > the
> > > > > > upgrades were new tires (for fear of dry-rot), new fan-
> > clutch,
> > > > > > alternator (when I first got it) and new valve cover
> gaskets
> > > > > > (recently). I would really like to not sell the car, but
> > > > > > unfortunately I may have to. If there is any interest,
> > please
> > > > > > email me at john_banks@h... and I will respond to you as
> > soon
> > > > > > as possible. I also have droves of pictures available.
I
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > more than happy to answer any questions about the car.