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Number: 4773
From: "negusm"
Date: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Interesting figures
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Re: Interesting figures
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Good as answer as any. I like it.
-Mike
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "ascmclarencoupe" <babrams@l...>
wrote:
> Ok, I have been looking into the buck tag code "HB" some more and
it
> got me thinking. I dug out my "History 999" report out for my 1985
> Cougar XR-7 and they list one the options as "Heated Backlight",
> aka..rear defrost.
> Today a rear defrosting window is pretty much standard equipment
in
> probably any new car, but back when our cars were built it was an
> option, (required option in a couple of states).
> Since FLM officially named this a Heated Backlight, and being a
> major exterior building block of the car I do believe that this is
> what the "HB" stands for on the tag.
>
> This is of course my own opinion and I still have no real proof of
> this so I'll just say it's still circumstantial evidence for my
> case. :-)
>
> Brent
>
>
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm" <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > I wonder if HB could stand for High Back seats...
> >
> >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Brent Abrams" <babrams@l...>
> > wrote:
> > > I hit the send button too fast, so I'll start again.
> > >
> > > I always assumed that HB is for HatchBack, but after some
> looking
> > that
> > > doesn't make sense because that is what the "61D" means.
> > > This "HB" code appears in the same location on a Mustang buck
> tag
> > and the
> > > Mustang GT Registry also does not know what that code means
but
> > their
> > > suspicion is that it possibly could be a rear defroster code.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info on my car Sandy, I had gotten most of it
> from
> > you back
> > > when I found the car sitting on a used car lot and called you
to
> > confirm
> > > what it was before I bought it. What I didn't have were the
> > recieving &
> > > shipping dates or the production line figures of how many
> Capri's
> > were built
> > > after mine, that's some pretty neat info.
> > >
> > > Brent
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brent Abrams" <babrams@l...>
> > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Re: Interesting figures
> > >
> > >
> > > I always assumed that HB is for HatchBack.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sandy Block" <cigarsandy@c...>
> > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:13 PM
> > > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: Interesting figures
> > >
> > >
> > > > Obviously I messed up! The HB is NOT the build date! Could
> not
> > have
> > > > been built in August & received in July! The HB is NOT the
> build
> > > > date. I don't know what it stands for. The McLaren dates of
> > > > receiving & shipping are indeed correct.
> > > >
> > > > SORRY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block"
> > <cigarsandy@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 618892 is a EuroCoupe, Oxford White. Received AT
ascMcLaren
> on
> > July
> > > > > 15th 1986 & shipped out on July 24th 1986. It's the 13th
of
> > the 47
> > > > > EuroCoupes. They made 34 after it. It's one of 14 in
color.
> > > > > Regarding the Buck-Tag:-
> > > > > 618892 is of course your sequence VIN. 61D is the code
for
> a
> > Capri
> > > > 3-
> > > > > Door Hatchback. The "M" is the code for the 302 Cu In V-8
> > with EFI.
> > > > > 9L is the code for Oxford White, while the PW is Power
> > Windows.
> > > > >
> > > > > The HB is the build date of August 2nd H=Aug B=2 They
> built
> > 1,977
> > > > > 1986 Capris AFTER yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mustang took 93% of the build and Capri took 7% of the
> Dearborn
> > > > 1986
> > > > > model year build, which was 245,279, or 20,869 Capri &
> 224,410
> > > > > Mustang.
> > > > >
> > > > > S A N D Y
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Brent Abrams"
> > <babrams@l...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I don't have my door tag info handy but my body buck tag
> > reads as
> > > > > follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CAPRI
> > > > > > 618892 61D M 0127
> > > > >
> > > > > > 9L DF ST
> > > > > > AC 06 HB
> > > > > > PW 02
> > > > > > A EI 06 2 X 2 NLR
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And of course the other smaller tag next to it that
reads:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MCLAREN COUPE
> > > > > > MCLAREN COUPE
> > > > > > MCLAREN COUPE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brent
> > > > > > 1986 EuroCoupe, White, Automatic
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
> > > > > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:59 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: Interesting figures
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, it would be nice if we could get some owners to
> post
> > more
> > > > of
> > > > > > > their buck tags, door tags and any legible build
sheets.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My door tag as everyone probably has seen before is:
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.ascmclarencoupe.com/History/MasiBefore/door_tag.jpg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My buck tag is here but I don't have the info on it:
> > > > > > >
> http://www.ascmclarencoupe.com/ascParts/asc_BodyBuckTag.jpg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Its in front of the radiator attached to the cross bar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Tom S."
> <tkm654@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Again, the door tag DSO is different than the
internal
> > DSO
> > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > The door tag DSO is for the District Sales office.
> This
> > 2
> > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > code merely shows what district the car is/was
> intended
> > for.
> > > > > For
> > > > > > > > cars that were special orders there is an additional
4
> > digits
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > are undecipherible without internal paperwork.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > D32 is a code Ford used internally at the plant to
> > identify a
> > > > > > > > McLaren build.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IF everybody would offer up their door tag info we
> could
> > try
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > narrow down what codes are common for these cars and
> use
> > > > those
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > as identifiers. For instance, maybe all McLaren
Capri
> > coupes
> > > > > had
> > > > > > > > the same DSO or maybe they all used the same spring
> codes
> > > > which
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > coded with the transmission on the tag or maybe they
> all
> > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > same Accesory Reserve Load codes that is printed
above
> > the
> > > > DSO
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the door tag. This could be done for the Coupes,
> Capri
> > verts
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the Mustangs also. There is nothing except the VIN
on
> > this
> > > > tag
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > identify the car so a picture or two of the tag,
with
> > only
> > > > the
> > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > 6 digits of the vin blocked out if you so choose,
> would
> > be
> > > > > great.
> > > > > > > > If Sandy wants to handle the load of pics or if
Negusm
> > wants
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > fine, or I can too. A few examples of the tags:
> > > > > > > > http://www.sspmustang.org/technical/doortags.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tom S.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Peter Shear
> > <tfs2121@y...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > what about the door tag would it say anything about
> > > > > > > > > the D32 build code or something?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ~Peter
> > > > > > > > >
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