Real??? Found a 1982 Black M81 5.0 McLaren is it Real???

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Real??? Found a 1982 Black M81 5.0 McLaren is it Real???

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How do I tell if this car is the real deal or a copy?


I have located what I believe to be a Black (original color) 1982 M81, with what looks to be the original 5.0 four barrel engine backed by what appears to be the original 4 speed Ford top loader transmission with 4th gear being overdrive. I have been told that this is the third owner. I was also told that the first owner only signed it over to the second owner in a divorce settlement, to his now x-wife. I am waiting on a copy of the title and documentation. I need to verify as much as possible about this car before I buy it. It may be expensive to buy, so I need to be sure. Any and all information you can give me about this car will be helpful. As you must know, information on these cars is scarce. If it is a genuine M81 or GT Enduro, I can’t let it slip thru my fingers.
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richonetex wrote:How do I tell if this car is the real deal or a copy?


I have located what I believe to be a Black (original color) 1982 M81, with what looks to be the original 5.0 four barrel engine backed by what appears to be the original 4 speed Ford top loader transmission with 4th gear being overdrive. I have been told that this is the third owner. I was also told that the first owner only signed it over to the second owner in a divorce settlement, to his now x-wife. I am waiting on a copy of the title and documentation. I need to verify as much as possible about this car before I buy it. It may be expensive to buy, so I need to be sure. Any and all information you can give me about this car will be helpful. As you must know, information on these cars is scarce. If it is a genuine M81 or GT Enduro, I can’t let it slip thru my fingers.
Here are a couple of articles that should help you decide whether the 5.0 that you are talking about is an authentic M81 McLaren or GT Enduro, or neither!

http://www.gt-enduro.com/index_files/Page337.htm


Ford Mustang M81 McLaren is a fixed-head coupe that has 2 doors, rear wheel drive (RWD) and 2 seats. It is initiated in 1980. The automobile is 1270.00 mm high, 4549.00 mm long and 1853.00 mm wide. Moreover, this model's wheelbase is 2549.00 mm, its front track is 1515.00 mm and its rear track is 1523.00 mm. 114.00 mm is this vehicle's ground clearance. 1171 kg is this automobile's curb weight. The engine of Ford Mustang M81 McLaren is turbocharged and has an overhead valve (OHV), 4 cylinders with 2 valves per cylinder and engine displacement of 2302 cc. It is set in the front of the vehicle and has a longitudinal alignment. It also has inline-arranged cylinders. The piston stroke length is 79.50 mm and the cylinder diameter is 96.00 mm. The compression ratio is 9.00:1. The engine generates maximum power of 97 kW / 132 ps at 5400 rpm and maximum torque of 196 Nm at 3000 rpm. The model's fuel system is carburettor. A wet sump oiling system of the engine is used for lubricating its parts. The vehicle can accelerate for 9.76 s from 0 to 60 mph and for 7.00 s - from 0 to 50 mph. The automobile makes a quarter mile for 17.37 s. The Ford Mustang M81 McLaren has a manual 4-speed transmission. Its final drive ratio is 3.45:1. The fuel tank's capacity is 68.20 l. The vehicle's steering system is power assisted rack and pinion type. The steering wheel can make 2.75 complete rotations from one extreme position to another. The front suspension includes anti-roll bar, coil springs, independent, MacPherson strut and the rear suspension - anti-roll bar, coil springs, live axle. The front wheels size is 8 x 15. The rear wheels size is 8 x 15. The tyres in the front are 255/55 R 15. The rear tyres are 255/55 R 15. The front brakes are set up with disks. The rear brakes are equipped with drums, servo assistance. The diameter of the front brakes is 269.00 mm and the one of the rear brakes is 229.00 mm.

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Yeah, I thought the M81s were turbo cars.

I really doubt one would be a 5.0 because the whole purpose was to showcase their Turbo 4.

The Enduros, I'm not sure about.

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Keep in mind all the parts and pieces were available from Ford for a time. I once saw an ad for a Mustang that had the M81 stuff but was a V6. Wish I had called on it.

Get some pics and post them up for us to see.

You can find a ton of M81 pics here: http://public.fotki.com/ascmclaren/ascm ... stang_m81/
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I own the white #9 M81. There was a black one #8, last seen in Italy. All the m81's were turbo 4's. The m81's are 1980's.
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Hi, Saw the action here on the M81's. Well was at a car show two weeks ago, before the big snow,and tucked back out fo the way,was an 82 GT Enduro. Man is that car NICE !!! It was the real deal . This was the blue one. The car is for sale, and it it listed in Hemmings.There was no one around it,to talk with. Not that I didn't hang around, and around and around ! Boy, would I love to see that one in my garage. But it's only money. The owner is from Malvern, Pa. So just wanted to toss that info in.
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That blue one has been for sale seemingly forever. When I first saw the ad for it he was asking $40k.
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I still have the Revell model, unbuilt!

I tried to convince GMP to do the McLaren cars when they released the mid-80s Mustangs, but no dice. Live to have a diecast '85 ASC Coupe in my collection!
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Hi, Well pull your seat belt up real tight. For the the asking price, on the blue GT Enduro, is now $49,500. Might be for sale a week or two.
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I could not find the 4sale ad :cry:
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ChuckG wrote:I still have the Revell model, unbuilt!

I tried to convince GMP to do the McLaren cars when they released the mid-80s Mustangs, but no dice. Live to have a diecast '85 ASC Coupe in my collection!
If they would build any kind of a bubbleback capri, that would be great.
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Hi, The sale ad that I found, was on the Hemmings web site.It was under " 1980 Ford Mustang GT Enduro ". After seeing the car,I just started looking for info on it. Keep finding more and more on the GT Enduor cars. Then this add poped up. Mind you, I'm by no means a PC wiz,But it's there.
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Did anyone notice it has 83 - 86 taillights?
kinda blows the whole "original unrestored condition" quote.
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1985 Motorsport Capri wrote:Did anyone notice it has 83 - 86 taillights?
kinda blows the whole "original unrestored condition" quote.
Not to mention the castor/camber plates, strut tower brace, engine fan, silicone hoses and other stuff I may have missed. But I will cut him some slack on the taillights. I talked to him on the phone a few years back when I first saw it for sale and he told me that when he bought it that it had an '83 nose on it. If you look at the period picture in his ad with it on the period Ford transporter it has the '83 taillights as well. I'd bet Ford put those taillights on it and he never changed them back out when he put it back to it's original configuration.

Here's a pic of the '83 nose:

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