Oh one other thing. The 85's came with the 7.5" gear. The 86's came with
the much stronger 8.8"
If anyone with an 84 or 85 ASC feels a little shimmy or shake at the back of
the car get it to a shop to have the rear checked and likely rebuilt. My 85
convertible shook for about a week before locking up at speed! This was not
only scary but it required that everything including on axel needed to be
replaced.
If you are hopping up the motor or plan on drag racing these cars I suggest
getting a rear from a newer mustang to beat on while your original sits in a
nice safe place (indoors and heated is best)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Block" <cigarsandy@c...>
To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 6:12 PM
Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Questions1985's came with 2.73:1. The higher ratio was then a no-charge
option, and became standard in the 1986's. (We're talkin' coupes
here).
S A N D Y
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "capri_16t" <capri_50@m...> wrote:
> Have an interesting question. I have an 85 Blue/orange capri.
Door
> sticker denotes axle code is 'M'. I thought 'M' is for 2.73's
> and 'Z' was for 3.08's. Did the 3.08's not get installed in the
> rear until later (before the decal was made) or is this one of
those
> MANY freak mistakes which I happen to have by FORD and/or Mclaren.
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm" <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > Sandy's Post #356 kind of describes it. There were no documented
> > options but it seems there were some undocumented ones on the
last
> > of the '85s.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm" <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > > Yeah, I pulled that out from an old posting. I think Sandy
> > > clarified that actually some of the later 85's had some options
> > > added.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, John Gemelli <jgemelli@o...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Maybe I misunderstand your chart but I think it's wrong on
the
> > > 85's as my
> > > > Midnight blue coupe has
> > > > Pop up sunroof, Power locks and a Remote hatch release in the
> > > glovebox.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
> > > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:56 PM
> > > > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Re: 85 Coupe Questions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well the following I gleaned from all the postings as I went
> > > > > through...
> > > > >
> > > > > Most of it is from sandy and I think it is fairly
accurate.
> It
> > > > > hasn't been cleaned up and may be somewhat jumbled...but
> here
> > it
> > > > > is...correct anything if it is wrong...
> > > > >
> > > > > Coupe information:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mercury Capri Coupe GS, tagged with an ASC Mclaren body tag
> > and a
> > > > > Ford code of D32 to
> > > > > denote special order.
> > > > >
> > > > > Standard Equipment:
> > > > > These items were Extra in the Mustang GT, but Standard in
> ALL
> > > Capri
> > > > > RS (GS?) 5.0L cars, and therefore also in all asc/McLaren
> > Coupes,
> > > > > from the Dearborn Assembly Plant.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Power Windows
> > > > > 2. Light Group
> > > > > 3. Electric Rr. Defroster
> > > > >
> > > > > Items standard in the Mustang GT and Capri:
> > > > > 1. Tinted Glass
> > > > > 2. Tilt Steering Wheel
> > > > >
> > > > > Options (From Ford) Installed ON LINE at Dearborn on OUR
> > COUPES,
> > > > > were:
> > > > > 1985
> > > > > NONE
> > > > > 1986
> > > > > Power Door Locks
> > > > > Remote Hatch Release
> > > > > Air Conditioning (Standard in 1985)
> > > > > Speed Control
> > > > > Pop-Up Sun Roof
> > > > > T-Roof
> > > > > Automatic Transmission
> > > > >
> > > > > All, except the Air Conditioning which was standard in 1985
> > > > > (optional in 1986) were NOT available on 1985s. However,
> very
> > > near
> > > > > the end of production of the 1985's asc/McLaren
> added "Oxford
> > > White"
> > > > > as an alternative color choice to the "Midnight Navy-Blue
> > > Metallic",
> > > > > and at that point, and only on the Oxford White cars, they
> > > allowed
> > > > > the option of Power Door Locks/Remote Hatch release, and
> Speed
> > > > > Control.
> > > > >
> > > > > NO 1985s had the Pop-Up Sun Roof, nor the T-Roof, nor
> Automatic
> > > > > Transmission. 1985s in Oxford White with Pwr. Locks &
Speed
> > > Control
> > > > > are EXTREMELY rare, and I have only 2 on the asc/McLaren
> > > > > International Registry, after keeping the Registry now for
> 16
> > > years!
> > > > >
> > > > > Of the 1986's, just nine (9) were equipped with the
Automatic
> > > > > Transmission, and the Pop-Up Sun Roof was on around 20
cars,
> > > while
> > > > > the T-Roof was on around 30 cars. Power Locks were on
around
> 55
> > > > > cars. I have never found an '86 withOUT A/Cond. The rarest
> > combo
> > > > > would have been an '86 in Platinum Silver Metallic with
> Raven
> > > Black
> > > > > decals/logos/stripes, with a T-Roof, Pwr. Locks, Automatic
> > Trans.
> > > > > However, no such car was built!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Engine Oddities in 1985:
> > > > >
> > > > > Odd Sized Piston Rings...Normal ones are TRW Metric Some
> > > > > Ford Mustang 1.5mm.-1.5mm-4mm oil ring
> > > > > Mercury Capri 1/16-1/16-156mm oil ring
> > > > >
> > > > > Some parts scribed with a P for PROTOTYPE by hand (Valve
> > Guides,
> > > > > Springs, etc).
> > > > >
> > > > > Herewith are the actual alterations done to the MOTOR,
> either
> > by
> > > > > Ford (F)
> > > > > or by asc/McLaren (AM)
> > > > >
> > > > > A) Upgrade Exhaust Header to Stainless Steel Internal
> Mandrel
> > > Bent
> > > > > Incorporate Exhaust Port Liners Tuned With Lower
Restriction
> > > Exhaust.
> > > > > B) Tuned Muffler To Reduce Back Pressure & Enhance Exhaust
> > Tone.
> > > > > C) Replace Damper Units & Springs To Achieve Better
> Cornering
> > & A
> > > > > Softer
> > > > > Ride than The TRX System.
> > > > > D) Modify Camber Of Vehicle Front & Rear To Maximize
> > Performance
> > > Of
> > > > > Upgraded
> > > > > Tire/Wheel Combination. Requires New Wheel Alignment.
> > > > > E) Increase Suspension Bushing Durometer.
> > > > > F) Revise Power Steering To Give More Feedback Sensitivity
> > > > > G) Change Shift Linkage To Shorten Throw & Give A Tighter
> Feel
> > on
> > > > > 1984 & 1985
> > > > > cars as well 5-Speed Manual 1986 cars.
> > > > > H) Tires: Upgraded To P225x50:15" From P225x60:15" Hi
> > > Performance To
> > > > > Maximize
> > > > > Handling & Ride Quality & Enhance Lowered Effect Of Vehicle
> > B.F.
> > > > > Goodrich
> > > > > "Comp T/A"
> > > > > I) Replace Valve Springs & Rocker Arms To Increase Usable
> Rev.
> > > Limit
> > > > > to 7,000 R.P.M.
> > > > > J) B-303 Ford MotorSport Hi-Po Cam
> > > > >
> > > > > Radios
> > > > > The Speakers in the front were stock Ford
> > > > > The 2 in the hatch were Kenwood.
> > > > > They were housed in a rectangle flat black housing with the
> > name
> > > > > KENWOOD stamped
> > > > > in the top part of the framework.
> > > > > The stereo in the 1984 & 1985 was by Kenwood.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ground Effects
> > > > > You do not need a fog light bar. I would think the
> directions
> > > would
> > > > > point out that
> > > > > you need to remove and not reuse a stock fog light bar in
> > order
> > > to
> > > > > install the
> > > > > airdam. My '85 just had the screws going into some nut-
serts
> > into
> > > > > the urethane.
> > > > >
> > > > > Front Nose was originally a GS
> > > > >
> > > > > Rear End
> > > > > 3.08:1 Axle Upgrade over 2.73:1
> > > > >
> > > > > "Light Group" which was an
> > > > > option (order code 934) on the Capri in 1984.
> > > > > The "Light Group" includes:
> > > > > Third-door courtesy light switch
> > > > > Ashtray light (front)
> > > > > Glove box light
> > > > > Dual-beam dome lamp
> > > > > Engine compartment light
> > > > > Headlamps-on warning buzzer
> > > > > Locking fuel filler door w/remote release
> > > > >
> > > > > In 1985 the "Light Group" became standard equipment and
this
> > > carried
> > > > > through
> > > > > to 1986 as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Light Covers
> > > > > They were made by a vacuum
> > > > > formed machine, from clear lexan plastic. They have 2 holes
> on
> > > top
> > > > > that small screws go thru, and down into the plastic frame
> of
> > the
> > > > > headlights. On the bottom of them is supposed to be two
tabs
> of
> > > > > velcro that "hook up" to two receiving tabs of oppisite
> velcro,
> > > > > stuck
> > > > > to the top of the bumper cover, but out of sight as they
are
> > > under
> > > > > the headlamps. If properly installed, they do not leak. The
> > > > > taillampcovers, on the other hand, do occassionaly leak
> > moisture.
> > > > > NEVER remove the taillight covers to clean! Changes of
> > breaking
> > > them
> > > > > in the re-install are like 85% !
> > > > >
> > > > > Wheels
> > > > > 225/60 15" wheels and 25.63 total height top to bottom with
> > tire.
> > > > > <==Help to calc speedo gear.
> > > > > 225/50 15" wheels and 23.90 <===These are the correct tires.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block"
> > > <cigarsandy@c...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Oh, Also.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Springs were designed by McLaren, and were purpose built
> to
> > > spec.
> > > > > > Shocks were by Carerra in Georgia. 50/50 Shocks, the
OEMs
> > were
> > > > > > either WHITE or GOLD exterior casing. They are still
> > > available &
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have the part numbers if anyone needs them.
> > > > > > Air Horn by Fila ('Ya the sportswear Mfg'r.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Tom G
> <speedracer815@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm curious about the alterations made to the coupes.
> I've
> > > seen
> > > > > > ASC's sales "brochure" and it really doesn't say anything
> > about
> > > > > > performance modifications.
> > > > > > > I understand they were DSO'd with the B303 cam. Any
> other
> > > engine
> > > > > > changes?
> > > > > > > I also know springs and shocks were different, but does
> > > anyone
> > > > > know
> > > > > > the actual spring rates?
> > > > > > > As an aside, I'm constantly amazed at the depth of
> Sandy's
> > > > > > knowledge. Sandy, were you an ASC employee during that
> > period?
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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