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Number: 1985
From: "gemellifamily <jgemelli@o...>" <jgemelli@o...>
Date: Sat Feb 1, 2003  3:31 pm
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] 85 Ebay ASC 19k miles, capri vert

Body:
In any event that looks like a real nice asc!

One funny thing is that I thought all convertibles vin's were 1MHBP
to start out. I know mine is and my insurance company goes crazy
about it. (I spent 10 minutes arguing with a girl over who's right,
me or her computer)

I always wanted those spoilers on the vert. Never did it though as I
left the body dead stock. With just 19K on the clock I can't really
beleive that it's not.

OH and his wood looks just like mine. (guessing it's from the same
production period.) Stock kenwood radio surronded by wood!

Safe driving!

John

--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Todd Smith <todd_smith@y...> wrote:
>
> good job, Sandy! Thanks for the effort. I hope he pulls through.
> "Sandy Block <cigarsandy@c...>" <cigarsandy@c...> wrote:One man's
Bull Sh## can oft be another man's problem.
> Anyhow, as I said, I sent a nice e-mail to the seller.
> I said, "The front of the car doesn't look like any Mustang I ever
> saw. Are you absolutely sure that it is a Mustang? If so, I'll
bid"
>
> That should see if he's willing to clear the air ! I'll post
> immediately after I hear back from him. He will return on Monday
the
> 3rd
>
>
>
> -- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Todd Smith <todd_smith@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > Well, friend, I can understand your example of a spoiler. If I'm
a
> thousand miles away, maybe I can't tell the difference. I don't
> think it applies to a car. To transfer a car, one must transfer a
> title. The documentation required will create full disclosure at
> some point. Nobody is going to be duped in this procedure. At
> worst, someone might be inconvenienced. Even that is not very
> likely.
> > I could be wrong, but I anticipate that the seller will explain
the
> details to each caller. It will come up in the process, so why risk
> blowing a deal. It would not make sense. I agree with the seller
in
> explaining it to the mass market in terms they will understand, as
> long as he is forthright in the explanation with callers. I also
> agree with you that it would have been better if he had
> differentiated in the body copy of the ad. Maybe ebay would have
> barred the ad, though.
> > I tried to find the ad, but could not. I found the 88, but not
the
> 85. Oh well, much ado about nothing. Otherwise, thank you for all
> your good posts. I enjoy this board very much. Pardon my
> contentiousness, but I rail at people who want to sue about
bullshit
> stuff. Anyway, take care and I'll look forward to more of your
great
> posts.
> > Todd
> > Marquis Grove <infosyssec@y...> wrote:If I sell to you a genuine
> McLaren spoiler for $300 and you find out later that it was not a
> > McLaren spoiler at all that you purchased, but in fact a standard
> issue $129 Mustang spoiler..
> > would you not try to either return the goods and get a refund or
> would you silently accept the
> > fact that you paid a higher then market price because you were
lead
> to believe the item was a rare
> > and limited McLaren spoiler. No one likes to be made a sucker.
> >
> > Misrepresentation of merchandise is unfortunately an all too
common
> occurence in our society, that
> > attempts to take advantage of the uninformed. The laws are there
> to protect the consumer when a
> > swindle takes place.
> >
> > With eBay the purchaser is usually purchasing the vehicle at a
> distance from the car itself. They
> > take the information provided in the auction description as being
> something that they can base
> > their opinion on whether to bid or not to bid on a vehicle. They
> do not have the opportunity to
> > visit the vehicle or in that case examine the vehicle's
> registration papers.
> >
> > Similarly, not all people out there are 'hip' to the fact that
> there are 'Capri' models and
> > 'Mustang' models. We can just chalk them up to the ill-informed
> part of society.
> >
> > The misrepresentation of a vehicle, as being a Ford Mustang as
> compared to a Mercury Capri,
> > without any further clarification in the ad rectifying
> the 'similarity' of the vehicle, hopes to
> > deceive the uninformed who are not necessarily aware that there
> were 'Capri' models as compared to
> > 'Mustang' models.
> >
> > So yes, it is very possible that a purchaser of that vehicle may
be
> falsely mislead into believing
> > he has purchased a 'Mustang'. And although he may be very
thrilled
> to learn that his purchase
> > turns out to in fact be a 'Capri' it is not what he negotiated or
> purchased.
> >
> > So the bottom line to this tale is not to advocate litigation,
but
> to wonder why some of these
> > advertisers clearly persist in falsely representing the vehicles
as
> Mustangs when they are Capris.
> >
> > Marq
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Todd Smith <todd_smith@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > sue? are you an attorney? please sir, we don't need another
> frivolous movement of idiocy
> > > clogging our courts. this mornings thread is much ado about
> nothing. someone is trying to
> > > bring their car to market and help the uneducated public reach
it
> to consider it. nobody is
> > > going to go away from the final transaction not knowing what
they
> got. furthermore, the
> > > resultant buyer will probably be grateful that they wer able to
> find such a nice car and we will
> > > all benefit by higher market prices for our cars.
> > > todd, 84 #2
> > > Marquis Grove <infosyssec@y...> wrote:I think the sad point in
> this advert is that it is
> > > supposedly a representative of a 'Collector'
> > > who is selling this car off... Surely a 'collector' wouldn't
have
> mislead his 'agent' by telling
> > > him " This Low Mileage Convertible Ford Mustang McClaren is
being
> sold from a Car Collectors
> > > Private Collection.. "
> > >
> > > But I think the lesson we have seen over the past while is that
> to command the bucks you have to
> > > tell the audience that the car is a Mustang to catch their
> attention. Then you can explain it
> > > to
> > > them afterwards that ' it is really a McLaren Mercury Capri -
but
> they are almost identical to a
> > > McLaren Ford Mustang... :) Hmmmm... almost a bit of a bait
and
> switch eh ? Maybe one of these
> > > buyers should sue them after they buy it when it turns out that
> it wasn't a McLaren Ford Mustang
> > > that they were sold...
> > >
> > > Marq
> > >
> > > --- "negusm <negusm@y...>" <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > > ViewItem&item=2401350413&category=6236
> > > >
> > > > Yet another seller claiming its a Mustang.
> > > >
> > > > -Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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	Replies	Name/Email	Yahoo! ID	Date	Size
1986	Re: 85 Ebay ASC 19k miles, capri vert	Sandy Block <cigarsandy@c...>	cigarsandy	Sat  2/1/2003	12 KB
1987	Re: 85 Ebay ASC 19k miles, capri vert	negusm <negusm@y...>	negusm	Sun  2/2/2003	13 KB
1988	Re: 85 Ebay ASC 19k miles, capri vert	Sandy Block <cigarsandy@c...>	cigarsandy	Sun  2/2/2003	14 KB
1989	Re: 85 Ebay ASC 19k miles, capri vert	negusm <negusm@y...>	negusm	Mon  2/3/2003	15 KB