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Number: 2306
From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:33 am
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] Sorry, to bring this up again....
Body:
Excellent! See, you knew the answer :-) Or at least a piece of it!
What would we ever do without you?
Now I feel good for exchanging for the Kenwood.
Thanks!
-Mike
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Block" <cigarsandy@c...>
wrote:
> Guys, we have to talk about VINs. There is something that it seems
> most of you do not understand regarding McLaren VINs.
>
> Ford Motor Company shipped Capris & Mustangs by rail to Autry
Avenue,
> Livonia, Michigan, asc's plant at that location, that had a self
> contained rail-yard. When the cars (Capri GS Hatchbacks with
> optional V-8 and Mustang LX V-8 {or 3.8 Litre Six in 1986} 2-Door
> Notchback Sedans) arrived, they were unloaded into a huge storage
> arena. (Think shopping mall parking lot, with 360-degree fence
> around it). Now, when the cars were up-loaded onto the rail cars,
at
> FoMoCo's Dearborn Assembly Plant,
> they were not done so in consecutive order of VIN. When they were
> down-loaded onto asc's property and parked, again they were not
done
> so in consecutive order of VINs. These cars sat outside until order
> (s) were place for a unit or units. As needed, a porter would go
> outside (often in pouring rain) to fetch a doner car. With Capri
> cars to become convertibles, all he had to check was for interior
> color & transmission type, as all else would be changed. With
Capri
> hatchbacks, again transmission type but since they were not
> repainted, exterior color mattered. With Mustangs, again like
Capri
> converts, interior color & transmission type.
> At NO POINT were VINs ever taken into consideration in the scheme
of
> things. A unit with a VIN of 608777 at Ford, could have been built
> as an ascMcLaren 10 weeks AFTER a unit with a VIN of 602500.
Every
> ascMcLaren has two numbers. The ascMcLaren production number AND
the
> Ford Motor Company sequence of build number. Never do they
> correspond with one & other. Therefore, regarding this
disscussion
> of stereo installation, the VIN has no bearing as to what stereo
was
> originally in there. When a change was made at asc, new present
> stock was used up, prior to the replacement piece installed.
> I have never seen a 1986 ascMclaren hatchback with the Kenwood
stereo
> unit. I have seen "a few" 1985s with the Alpine stereo unit, but
> mostly the Kenwood. My guess is that the Alpine came on board at
or
> near the end of 1985 conversions. I'd say on an '85 either or
would
> be correct. Since 1985 coupes are not numbered, it's impossible to
> ever tell in what order ascMcLaren actually did their alterations
to
> them.
> By the way, 1986 EuroCoupes were made under a 58Y code, "Radio
> Delete" and arrived at the ordering dealer with a hole in the dash
> for a "something" installation. They didn't even have radio delete
> plugs. This is why most EuroCoupe have a wide variety of different
> stereos in them, depending upon whatever the selling dealer had on
> his parts shelf at that moment !!
>
>
>
>
>
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "Tom S." <tkm654@c...> wrote:
> > My '85 coupe (607910) had a Kenwood with the two knobs.
> >
> > Tom S.
> >
> >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, "negusm" <negusm@y...> wrote:
> > > I sent you an email on trying to see where my vin (ending with
> > > consecutive number 607872) falls in amongst your verts since I
> > have a
> > > coupe and no numbers were given for those.
> > >
> > > Please check your mail. Thanks for the response!
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, John Gemelli <jgemelli@o...>
> > wrote:
> > > > The Kenwood is probably it. I have 3 85's. The coupe made
mid
> > > year has the
> > > > Alpine, both converts have the Kenwood One is #236 (not sure
> > about
> > > the other
> > > > as it's still in storage.) If your # is before that it's
most
> > > certainly the
> > > > Kenwood.
> > > >
> > > > They are digital radios. Not dial type radio's and have
> antenna
> > > boosters
> > > > attached. Sorry not sure about the amp though as mine have
> > never
> > > been out
> > > > of the car.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck with it!
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "negusm" <negusm@y...>
> > > > To: <ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:11 PM
> > > > Subject: [ASC McLaren ] Sorry, to bring this up again....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This bugs me...
> > > > >
> > > > > So as you may or may not know...I sent the Alpine radio
back
> > to
> > > Hank
> > > > > to get changed to the Kenwood since I thought my car was an
> > > early '85
> > > > > which it may not, the Alpine may be more correct for me...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but anyways...I called Hank asking for the face plate
> (trim
> > > plate)
> > > > > for the radio. The Alpine he sent looked just like the asc
> > > > > Brochure...it has posts (dual shaft)...but it didn't come
> with
> > a
> > > face
> > > > > plate panel. The dash in my car which I believe is totally
> > > original
> > > > > is a DIN-style which was new for 1985 and went to 1986. It
> > has a
> > > > > wide opening and won't support a post style radio without
at
> > least
> > > > > some trim plate or something.
> > > > >
> > > > > My question is, was there a DIN style radio that I should
ask
> > Hank
> > > > > for, or was there a face plate used in the DIN opening for
> the
> > > dual
> > > > > shaft radio?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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