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Number: 4800
From: "negusm"
Date: Sun Mar 21, 2004  11:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ASC McLaren ] '84 hood scoop pics now available

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Re: [ASC McLaren ] '84 hood scoop pics now available

I just to add a little to the "discussion".

The 3L blue color (of the 85 coupes) was not a clear coated color as
I think Ford was just starting to play with clear coats. If you
look at the color selections for exterior cars you can see that some
were clear coats and some were not.

Now, to find a body man who will do single coat paint (like enamel
which I think (I'm not sure) was the original paint) is a very hard
thing. The car has been looked at by a total of 3 very reputable
body men. All of them refuse to deal with single coat paints and
two of them had been doing it long enough to have done both types in
their careers. I don't really care as I plan on keeping good care
of the paint job, and at this stage I just want it DONE!

So what I wonder is when I asked them to paint the trim without
clear coat, they balked because the base without clear in a clear-
coat system does not hold up as well as a 1 coat paint? Should I
ask them to use enamel or some other type of paint for the trim that
is geared for no clear coat?

-Mike



--- In ascmclaren@yahoogroups.com, Tom G <speedracer815@y...> wrote:
> > even if you cant get UV clear, the benifits of clear
> > coat are substantial. it protects the paint from
> > scratches, rock chips, and other damage.
>
> Would you please elaborate on this? How does clear
> coat PAINT protect my PAINT from scratches, rock chips
> and other damage? What am I missing here?
>
> In my experience both types of paint jobs get those
> blemishes. High quality one step paints can often be
> color sanded and polished to get rid of such blemishes
> (obviously depending on depth), but clearcoat finishes
> usually don't have enough depth to the clear to do
> this.
>
> Sort of like chrome vs. polished rims. Chrome will
> look good with minimal effort, but in the long run,
> polished can be kept looking new almost indefinitley.
>
> I believe some paint systems offer UV inhibitors both
> in clear and pigmented paints.
>
> Having painted cars using both, I can tell you that
> painting pearls and metallics becomes much easier when
> using a clearcoat. You can concentrate on even
> dispersion with the color, and then concentrate on a
> nice smooth layer with the clear.
>
> Choose what you wish, but do your research and talk to
> people that have painted and owned both. Also if
> originality is a concern, I don't believe our coupes
> originally came from Ford with clearcoat.
>
> Tom G.
>
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  Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date  
4801 Re: Paint (was: '84 hood scoop pics now available) Tom G speedracer815 Mon  3/22/2004  
4802 Re: Paint (was: '84 hood scoop pics now available) negusm negusm Mon  3/22/2004  
4803 Re: Paint (was: '84 hood scoop pics now available) Tom G speedracer815 Mon  3/22/2004  
4804 Re: Paint (was: '84 hood scoop pics now available) Brent Abrams ascmclarencoupe Mon  3/22/2004  
4808 Re: Paint (was: '84 hood scoop pics now available) Peter Shear tfs2121 Mon  3/22/2004